From: Danny Colyer on
On 06/07/2008 10:46, Nick Finnigan wrote:
> Construction and Use regulations.
> A person shall not open, or cause or permit to be opened, any door of a
> vehicle on a road so as to injure or endanger anyone.
>
> So you don't have to hit the cyclist, causing him to stop would count.
> Still unclear as to whether a door left open would be dangerous.

Thanks, Nick, for looking that up. It saves me trying to help Steve any
further. I'm pretty sure now that he's beyond help, anyway - he
certainly comes across as someone who is unfit to be in charge of any
type of vehicle on the public highway.

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From: Nick Finnigan on
�i�ardo wrote:
> Tom Crispin wrote:
>
>>
>> 20% of deaths and serious injuries among London's cyclists are by a
>> driver or passenger opening their car door into the path of a cyclist.
>
>
> Perhaps, bearing in mind the substantial difference between "deaths" and
> "serious injuries", you could tell us the number of deaths and the
> number of serious injuries sustained by cyclists riding into car doors.

4 deaths out of 178 in 1985 - 1992 by opening a door.

I can only find claims (other than TCs) for 10% of SIs.
From: Tom Crispin on
On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 10:49:19 +0100, "Brimstone"
<brimstone520-ng03(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Tom Crispin wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 09:53:18 +0100, "Brimstone"
>> <brimstone520-ng03(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Tom Crispin wrote:
>>>> I am in the process of setting up a modular format course for Level
>>>> 3 Bikeability, with five 2 hour learning modules and four 2 or 3
>>>> hour modules and a two day cycle tour.
>>>>
>>> <snipped>
>>>
>>> Could you clarify something for me please?
>>>
>>> 1. You teach people, mainly children AIUI to ride bicycles safely.
>>> 2. You were recently involved in a collision with a moving motor
>>> vehicle which resulted in you suffering personal injury.
>>>
>>> Is there not a certain irony here (if not a case of the blind
>>> leading the blind)?
>>
>> 1. - correct
>> 2. - incorrect, it was over a year ago
>
>OK, delete "recently". The question is till valid.
>
>> Do you think that a driving instructor, hit by a vehicle driving
>> diagonally across his path to reach a parking bay on the opposite side
>> of the road, should be excluded from working as a driving instructor?
>
>A competent driving instructor would not put himself in that situation.

Really? How, exactly?
From: Brimstone on
Tom Crispin wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 10:49:19 +0100, "Brimstone"
> <brimstone520-ng03(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Tom Crispin wrote:
>>> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 09:53:18 +0100, "Brimstone"
>>> <brimstone520-ng03(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tom Crispin wrote:
>>>>> I am in the process of setting up a modular format course for
>>>>> Level 3 Bikeability, with five 2 hour learning modules and four 2
>>>>> or 3 hour modules and a two day cycle tour.
>>>>>
>>>> <snipped>
>>>>
>>>> Could you clarify something for me please?
>>>>
>>>> 1. You teach people, mainly children AIUI to ride bicycles safely.
>>>> 2. You were recently involved in a collision with a moving motor
>>>> vehicle which resulted in you suffering personal injury.
>>>>
>>>> Is there not a certain irony here (if not a case of the blind
>>>> leading the blind)?
>>>
>>> 1. - correct
>>> 2. - incorrect, it was over a year ago
>>
>> OK, delete "recently". The question is till valid.
>>
>>> Do you think that a driving instructor, hit by a vehicle driving
>>> diagonally across his path to reach a parking bay on the opposite
>>> side of the road, should be excluded from working as a driving
>>> instructor?
>>
>> A competent driving instructor would not put himself in that
>> situation.
>
> Really? How, exactly?

You're the instructor. Work it out.


From: Steve Firth on
Danny Colyer <danny_colyer(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

> On 06/07/2008 10:46, Nick Finnigan wrote:
> > Construction and Use regulations.
> > A person shall not open, or cause or permit to be opened, any door of a
> > vehicle on a road so as to injure or endanger anyone.
> >
> > So you don't have to hit the cyclist, causing him to stop would count.
> > Still unclear as to whether a door left open would be dangerous.
>
> Thanks, Nick, for looking that up. It saves me trying to help Steve any
> further. I'm pretty sure now that he's beyond help, anyway - he
> certainly comes across as someone who is unfit to be in charge of any
> type of vehicle on the public highway.

Jings but you're dumb.