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From: Danny Colyer on 6 Jul 2008 05:54 On 06/07/2008 10:46, Nick Finnigan wrote: > Construction and Use regulations. > A person shall not open, or cause or permit to be opened, any door of a > vehicle on a road so as to injure or endanger anyone. > > So you don't have to hit the cyclist, causing him to stop would count. > Still unclear as to whether a door left open would be dangerous. Thanks, Nick, for looking that up. It saves me trying to help Steve any further. I'm pretty sure now that he's beyond help, anyway - he certainly comes across as someone who is unfit to be in charge of any type of vehicle on the public highway. -- Danny Colyer <http://www.redpedals.co.uk> Reply address is valid, but that on my website is checked more often "The plural of anecdote is not data" - Frank Kotsonis
From: Nick Finnigan on 6 Jul 2008 06:09 �i�ardo wrote: > Tom Crispin wrote: > >> >> 20% of deaths and serious injuries among London's cyclists are by a >> driver or passenger opening their car door into the path of a cyclist. > > > Perhaps, bearing in mind the substantial difference between "deaths" and > "serious injuries", you could tell us the number of deaths and the > number of serious injuries sustained by cyclists riding into car doors. 4 deaths out of 178 in 1985 - 1992 by opening a door. I can only find claims (other than TCs) for 10% of SIs.
From: Tom Crispin on 6 Jul 2008 07:44 On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 10:49:19 +0100, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-ng03(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >Tom Crispin wrote: >> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 09:53:18 +0100, "Brimstone" >> <brimstone520-ng03(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> Tom Crispin wrote: >>>> I am in the process of setting up a modular format course for Level >>>> 3 Bikeability, with five 2 hour learning modules and four 2 or 3 >>>> hour modules and a two day cycle tour. >>>> >>> <snipped> >>> >>> Could you clarify something for me please? >>> >>> 1. You teach people, mainly children AIUI to ride bicycles safely. >>> 2. You were recently involved in a collision with a moving motor >>> vehicle which resulted in you suffering personal injury. >>> >>> Is there not a certain irony here (if not a case of the blind >>> leading the blind)? >> >> 1. - correct >> 2. - incorrect, it was over a year ago > >OK, delete "recently". The question is till valid. > >> Do you think that a driving instructor, hit by a vehicle driving >> diagonally across his path to reach a parking bay on the opposite side >> of the road, should be excluded from working as a driving instructor? > >A competent driving instructor would not put himself in that situation. Really? How, exactly?
From: Brimstone on 6 Jul 2008 07:52 Tom Crispin wrote: > On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 10:49:19 +0100, "Brimstone" > <brimstone520-ng03(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> Tom Crispin wrote: >>> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 09:53:18 +0100, "Brimstone" >>> <brimstone520-ng03(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> Tom Crispin wrote: >>>>> I am in the process of setting up a modular format course for >>>>> Level 3 Bikeability, with five 2 hour learning modules and four 2 >>>>> or 3 hour modules and a two day cycle tour. >>>>> >>>> <snipped> >>>> >>>> Could you clarify something for me please? >>>> >>>> 1. You teach people, mainly children AIUI to ride bicycles safely. >>>> 2. You were recently involved in a collision with a moving motor >>>> vehicle which resulted in you suffering personal injury. >>>> >>>> Is there not a certain irony here (if not a case of the blind >>>> leading the blind)? >>> >>> 1. - correct >>> 2. - incorrect, it was over a year ago >> >> OK, delete "recently". The question is till valid. >> >>> Do you think that a driving instructor, hit by a vehicle driving >>> diagonally across his path to reach a parking bay on the opposite >>> side of the road, should be excluded from working as a driving >>> instructor? >> >> A competent driving instructor would not put himself in that >> situation. > > Really? How, exactly? You're the instructor. Work it out.
From: Steve Firth on 6 Jul 2008 08:04
Danny Colyer <danny_colyer(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On 06/07/2008 10:46, Nick Finnigan wrote: > > Construction and Use regulations. > > A person shall not open, or cause or permit to be opened, any door of a > > vehicle on a road so as to injure or endanger anyone. > > > > So you don't have to hit the cyclist, causing him to stop would count. > > Still unclear as to whether a door left open would be dangerous. > > Thanks, Nick, for looking that up. It saves me trying to help Steve any > further. I'm pretty sure now that he's beyond help, anyway - he > certainly comes across as someone who is unfit to be in charge of any > type of vehicle on the public highway. Jings but you're dumb. |