From: Martin on

Palindrome wrote:
> Periander wrote:
>> Alex Heney <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in
>> news:blg274dn5u835jfn4s7uhfvhpb5p5fpds9(a)4ax.com:
>>
>>> If you are opening a vehicle door on the "traffic" side of the parked
>>> vehicle, it is your responsibility to make sure you are not opening it
>>> into the path of another road user.
>>
>> Road user includes pedestrians old bean, passengers can also be stuck
>> on for this offence for giving someone a ding (and quite rightly so in
>> my never humble opinion).
>>
> Believe it or not, I've indicated and stopped at a rural bus stop (no
> pavements) - only to have someone on a bicycle come up and overtake on
> the *inside*. Fortunately I did see him and kept the passenger door
> shut, until they had passed.

I have had buses overtake and then pull in and brake when they are a few
feet in front of me cause me to do an emergency stop. I have also had
bus drivers pull up beside me in the same lane as me, then pull over
with me beside them, on many occasions.

No doubt the bus drivers here in the second instance complained that I
tried to undertake.

> It is a great shame that cyclists do have to share the road with other
> road users. But...

It is a great shame that there are so many idiots on the road, be they
cyclists, car drivers or even bus drivers.
From: Rob Morley on
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:31:18 GMT
Palindrome <me9(a)privacy.net> wrote:

> It is a great shame that cyclists do have to share the road with
> other road users. But...
>
It is a great shame there are so many incompetent inconsiderate
reckless idiots on the road, whatever their mode of transport.
Good cyclists and good drivers are perfectly capable of peaceful
harmonious coexistence on the same bit of tarmac, but the bad often
seem to outnumber the good ...

From: Ekul Namsob on
Brimstone <brimstone520-ng03(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Tom Crispin wrote:
> > On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 15:00:15 +0100, "Brimstone"
> > <brimstone520-ng03(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Tom Crispin wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 12:52:55 +0100, "Brimstone"
> >>> <brimstone520-ng03(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>> A competent driving instructor would not put himself in that
> >>>>>> situation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Really? How, exactly?
> >>>>
> >>>> You're the instructor. Work it out.
> >>>
> >>> I see... You can't answer the question.
> >>
> >> You're confusing "can't" and "won't".
> >
> > So you won't answer the question because you can't?
>
> As I said, you're confusing willingness and ability. What someone is willing
> to do and what they're able to do are two different things.

You are being tedious. Now, please stop trolling and answer Tom's
reasonable question.

Cheers,
Luke


--
Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in
exile in Lancashire <http://www.shrimper.org.uk>
From: Brimstone on
Ekul Namsob wrote:
> Brimstone <brimstone520-ng03(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Tom Crispin wrote:
>>> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 15:00:15 +0100, "Brimstone"
>>> <brimstone520-ng03(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tom Crispin wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 12:52:55 +0100, "Brimstone"
>>>>> <brimstone520-ng03(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A competent driving instructor would not put himself in that
>>>>>>>> situation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really? How, exactly?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're the instructor. Work it out.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see... You can't answer the question.
>>>>
>>>> You're confusing "can't" and "won't".
>>>
>>> So you won't answer the question because you can't?
>>
>> As I said, you're confusing willingness and ability. What someone is
>> willing to do and what they're able to do are two different things.
>
> You are being tedious. Now, please stop trolling and answer Tom's
> reasonable question.
>
Why? He's the cycling instructor and should therefore know the answer. If he
genuinely doesn't then he shouldn't be instructing.


From: Ekul Namsob on
Brimstone <brimstone520-ng03(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Ekul Namsob wrote:
> > Brimstone <brimstone520-ng03(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Tom Crispin wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 15:00:15 +0100, "Brimstone"
> >>> <brimstone520-ng03(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Tom Crispin wrote:
> >>>>> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 12:52:55 +0100, "Brimstone"
> >>>>> <brimstone520-ng03(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> A competent driving instructor would not put himself in that
> >>>>>>>> situation.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Really? How, exactly?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You're the instructor. Work it out.

<snip tedious dodging by someone who appears not to know what he's
talking about>

> > You are being tedious. Now, please stop trolling and answer Tom's
> > reasonable question.
> >
> Why?

You should answer the question in order to demonstrate that, as a
cycling instructor, Tom should know the answer.

Cheers,
Luke


--
Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in
exile in Lancashire <http://www.shrimper.org.uk>