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From: D&M JOHNSTON on 25 Jun 2008 09:35
I appologise in advance if this is long winded but it is very true, this I
can assure.

In the very early 80's I use to use a product made by Petrolon in the US ( I
use to sell the stuff too) called SLICK 50 and that you put in your motor
(about 1 litre) with an oil change and run it for about 5,000kms or so then
change the oil again without it and after a few extra thousand kms, noticed
a major improvement of fuel economy. It used to be sold under the
multi-level marketing schemes in those days but I beleive they got out of
that and just sold in retail outlets.

SLICK 50 was made from teflon resin or something like that and was
introduced into Australia around the late 70's, about the same time Nulon
was testing a similar product. Nulon actually ran a car from Melb-Syd with
no oil, just the Nulon product that had been mixed with the previous oil
change, they dumped the oil after 5,000kms and ran the car between the 2
cities with nothing in the sump and made it.
I had some great results out of SLICK 50 that cost about $35 a can back
then. I had a '81 sigma 2 litre wagon at the time and averaged about
9/100kms around town and about 7.5/100kph on the highway but after about an
extra 5,000kms, it was getting better. A trip from Grafton to Newcastle seen
about 8L/100kms around town and 6L/100kms on the highway.
I also had a 6 Tonne UD Nissan pantech truck and when it got to about
75,000kms I put about 3 cans of Slick 50 in and got some great results as
well. Before Slick 50 I was averaging about 80 litres of fuel for a round
trip of 320kms (4 kms per litre) but after about 10,000 more this went to 75
litres per 320kms (4.26 kms per litre) and after about 20,000kms later it
went down even further to 65-70 litres per 320kms (4.57-4.9kms per litre) .
I know that doesn't sound much but it made a hell of a difference in the
Monthly fuel bill even when we use to pay about 40 cents a litre back then
for deisel.

So by the time the truck had done about 100,000kms, I was saving up to 15
litres a day for the same kms on the same roads with similar loads. Them
days it was about $0.40 x 15ltres =$6 per day saving x 22 working days per
month ave =$132 per month which basically paid for the initial investment in
one month.
If you calculated that in todays dollars in the same conditions $1.85 x
15litres =$27.75per day x 22 days =$610 per month savings.

Also in my car,the Sigma wagon, I burst a radiator hose in Newcastle and
cooked the motor,the motor stopped because of the overheating and I thought
I seized it. after it cooled down and I got the NRMA to replace the hose, it
fired up again and away i went.I was concerned that it might've harmed the
valve stem seals but I never used any oil or had any problems at all.Also I
sold some of that stuff to my flying instructor at the time because he
beleived that because his aircraft ( Victa Airtourer 150) was used for
aerobatic and flight training work and it didn't have an inverted oil
system, this stuff would provide some protection.Well it did just that, He
was flying out of Casino one morning heading to Grafton and a oil pressure
hose burst in the engine cowel and he lost every drop of oil at more than
1500 feet alt, he turn it around and flew on power back to airstrip and
landed without drama or seizure of the engine. The engines in an aircraft
must be checked by a LAME if a situation occurred lke this and when he took
the cylinder heads off, there was absolutely no damage to the engine , no
stress marking and no glazing. This Product practically saved his bacon.

I haven't seen Slick 50 for many years and wonder if it is still available
here in Australia because I'd like to get some. I wonder if this product
would now be suitable in more modern multivalve engines that run thinner
more sophisticated oils? And, I wonder if it'd be the same formula?

cheers

DJ


From: a9x5l on 25 Jun 2008 10:17
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:35:49 +1000, D&M JOHNSTON wrote:
<snip>

"In defense of Slick 50, tests done on a Chevy 6 cylinder engine by the
University of Utah Engineering Experiment Station found that after
treatment with the PTFE additive the test engine's friction was reduced
by 13.1 percent, the output horsepower increased from 5.3 percent to 8.1
percent, and fuel economy improved as well. Unfortunately, the same tests
concluded that "There was a pressure drop across the oil filter resulting
from possible clogging of small passageways." Oil analysis showed that
iron contamination doubled after the treatment, indicating that engine
wear increased (Rau)."

http://skepdic.com/slick50.html

HTH

--
a9x5l
From: John_H on 25 Jun 2008 17:35
D&M JOHNSTON wrote:
>
>I haven't seen Slick 50 for many years and wonder if it is still available
>here in Australia because I'd like to get some. I wonder if this product
>would now be suitable in more modern multivalve engines that run thinner
>more sophisticated oils? And, I wonder if it'd be the same formula?

They did encounter a few problems with the Federal Trade Commission
over their claims... which I think was after Dupont refused to supply
them with Teflon (which they deemed to be unsuitable for the purpose
it was being used).

Before you buy any more of it, you might go to.... http://www.ftc.gov/
and search on *slick 50*.

--
John H
From: OzOne on 25 Jun 2008 17:55
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:35:49 +1000, "D&M JOHNSTON"
<mrjay1(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:

>I appologise in advance if this is long winded but it is very true, this I
>can assure.
>
>In the very early 80's I use to use a product made by Petrolon in the US ( I
>use to sell the stuff too) called SLICK 50 and that you put in your motor
>(about 1 litre) with an oil change and run it for about 5,000kms or so then
>change the oil again without it and after a few extra thousand kms, noticed
>a major improvement of fuel economy. It used to be sold under the
>multi-level marketing schemes in those days but I beleive they got out of
>that and just sold in retail outlets.
>
>SLICK 50 was made from teflon resin or something like that and was
>introduced into Australia around the late 70's, about the same time Nulon
>was testing a similar product. Nulon actually ran a car from Melb-Syd with
>no oil, just the Nulon product that had been mixed with the previous oil
>change, they dumped the oil after 5,000kms and ran the car between the 2
>cities with nothing in the sump and made it.
>I had some great results out of SLICK 50 that cost about $35 a can back
>then. I had a '81 sigma 2 litre wagon at the time and averaged about
>9/100kms around town and about 7.5/100kph on the highway but after about an
>extra 5,000kms, it was getting better. A trip from Grafton to Newcastle seen
>about 8L/100kms around town and 6L/100kms on the highway.
>I also had a 6 Tonne UD Nissan pantech truck and when it got to about
>75,000kms I put about 3 cans of Slick 50 in and got some great results as
>well. Before Slick 50 I was averaging about 80 litres of fuel for a round
>trip of 320kms (4 kms per litre) but after about 10,000 more this went to 75
>litres per 320kms (4.26 kms per litre) and after about 20,000kms later it
>went down even further to 65-70 litres per 320kms (4.57-4.9kms per litre) .
>I know that doesn't sound much but it made a hell of a difference in the
>Monthly fuel bill even when we use to pay about 40 cents a litre back then
>for deisel.
>
>So by the time the truck had done about 100,000kms, I was saving up to 15
>litres a day for the same kms on the same roads with similar loads. Them
>days it was about $0.40 x 15ltres =$6 per day saving x 22 working days per
>month ave =$132 per month which basically paid for the initial investment in
>one month.
>If you calculated that in todays dollars in the same conditions $1.85 x
>15litres =$27.75per day x 22 days =$610 per month savings.
>
>Also in my car,the Sigma wagon, I burst a radiator hose in Newcastle and
>cooked the motor,the motor stopped because of the overheating and I thought
>I seized it. after it cooled down and I got the NRMA to replace the hose, it
>fired up again and away i went.I was concerned that it might've harmed the
>valve stem seals but I never used any oil or had any problems at all.Also I
>sold some of that stuff to my flying instructor at the time because he
>beleived that because his aircraft ( Victa Airtourer 150) was used for
>aerobatic and flight training work and it didn't have an inverted oil
>system, this stuff would provide some protection.Well it did just that, He
>was flying out of Casino one morning heading to Grafton and a oil pressure
>hose burst in the engine cowel and he lost every drop of oil at more than
>1500 feet alt, he turn it around and flew on power back to airstrip and
>landed without drama or seizure of the engine. The engines in an aircraft
>must be checked by a LAME if a situation occurred lke this and when he took
>the cylinder heads off, there was absolutely no damage to the engine , no
>stress marking and no glazing. This Product practically saved his bacon.
>
>I haven't seen Slick 50 for many years and wonder if it is still available
>here in Australia because I'd like to get some. I wonder if this product
>would now be suitable in more modern multivalve engines that run thinner
>more sophisticated oils? And, I wonder if it'd be the same formula?
>
>cheers
>
>DJ
>

Yep Slick and Nulon work.....but you need to remove the oil filter and
just change the oil much more often which sorta negates the fuel
savings.

Great for sprint race applications though.
Had an oil pump drive shear at Oran Park years ago...did just short of
2 laps with no oil pressure pulling around 9000rpm.
Strip down showed no significant signs of damage.




OzOne of the three twins

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From: OzOne on 25 Jun 2008 18:02
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 07:35:06 +1000, John_H <john4721(a)inbox.com> wrote:


>
>Before you buy any more of it, you might go to.... http://www.ftc.gov/
>and search on *slick 50*.

There you'll see how the little guy got squashed by GovCo because he
didn't have the cash to fight an endless suply of taxpayers mone.




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