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From: Phil Kyle on 2 Dec 2006 10:08
Harry Bloomfield <harry.m1bytNOSPAM(a)tiscali.co.uk> verbally sodomised in
news:mn.cc137d6b5498a6bf.8412(a)tiscali.co.uk:

> I'm busy wiring up the new car for it's tow sockets and I have got as
> far the voltage sensing relay for the 12S. The Orange Smartcom has two
> terminals down one edge for the supply and three down the other side
> for the outputs.
>
> The confusing part is the connections are shown on the rear of the
> unit, with no actual clues as to which way to view it. Is the diagram
> on the reverse side intended to be correct viewing it from the back or
> with it rotated so you can actually insert the cables?
>
> Or in other words - looking at it with the 2x inputs on the left, 3x
> output to the right and terminal screws facing towards you - is the
> ground terminal top or bottom terminal?
>

Yes.

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From: Phil Kyle on 2 Dec 2006 10:08
Harry Bloomfield <harry.m1bytNOSPAM(a)tiscali.co.uk> verbally sodomised in
news:mn.ccbd7d6bee8f936d.8412(a)tiscali.co.uk:

> David Kline has brought this to us :
>
>
>> "Harry Bloomfield" <harry.m1bytNOSPAM(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:mn.cc137d6b5498a6bf.8412(a)tiscali.co.uk...
>>> I'm busy wiring up the new car for it's tow sockets and I have got as
>>> far the voltage sensing relay for the 12S. The Orange Smartcom has two
>>> terminals down one edge for the supply and three down the other side
>>> for the outputs.
>>>
>>> The confusing part is the connections are shown on the rear of the
>>> unit, with no actual clues as to which way to view it. Is the diagram
>>> on the reverse side intended to be correct viewing it from the back or
>>> with it rotated so you can actually insert the cables?
>>>
>>> Or in other words - looking at it with the 2x inputs on the left, 3x
>>> output to the right and terminal screws facing towards you - is the
>>> ground terminal top or bottom terminal?
>
>> Harry
>
>> Would this webpage be any use to you?
>> http://www.towitall.co.uk/trailer_wiring/instructions.htm
>
>> David - Milton Keynes
>> www.caravantravels.co.uk
>> Site Reports and Stories of our Travels in the UK and Europe
>
> Thanks David,
>
> I'm not sure....
>
> The split charge relay pin out in that diagram is identical to the
> terminal designation shown on the rear of my Smartcom relay. I suppose
> I could cross check it by checking the resistance between what the
> diagram shows as the 12v input and the 12v permanent live (pin 4).
>
> A shame that manufacturers go to such trouble to put a diagram on the
> back of the relay, but then leave you guessing as to which way up to
> actually read it :-)
>

Maybe they assume some sort of intelligence.

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From: Phil Kyle on 2 Dec 2006 10:09
Harry Bloomfield <harry.m1bytNOSPAM(a)tiscali.co.uk> verbally sodomised in
news:mn.d2447d6bbbece520.8412(a)tiscali.co.uk:

> Harry Bloomfield pretended :
>> David Kline has brought this to us :
>
>
>>> "Harry Bloomfield" <harry.m1bytNOSPAM(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:mn.cc137d6b5498a6bf.8412(a)tiscali.co.uk...
>>>> I'm busy wiring up the new car for it's tow sockets and I have got as
>>>> far the voltage sensing relay for the 12S. The Orange Smartcom has
>>>> two terminals down one edge for the supply and three down the other
>>>> side for the outputs.
>>>>
>>>> The confusing part is the connections are shown on the rear of the
>>>> unit, with no actual clues as to which way to view it. Is the diagram
>>>> on the reverse side intended to be correct viewing it from the back
>>>> or with it rotated so you can actually insert the cables?
>>>>
>>>> Or in other words - looking at it with the 2x inputs on the left, 3x
>>>> output to the right and terminal screws facing towards you - is the
>>>> ground terminal top or bottom terminal?
>
>>> Harry
>
>>> Would this webpage be any use to you?
>>> http://www.towitall.co.uk/trailer_wiring/instructions.htm
>
>>> David - Milton Keynes
>>> www.caravantravels.co.uk
>>> Site Reports and Stories of our Travels in the UK and Europe
>
>> Thanks David,
>
>> I'm not sure....
>
>> The split charge relay pin out in that diagram is identical to the
>> terminal designation shown on the rear of my Smartcom relay. I suppose
>> I could cross check it by checking the resistance between what the
>> diagram shows as the 12v input and the 12v permanent live (pin 4).
>
>> A shame that manufacturers go to such trouble to put a diagram on the
>> back of the relay, but then leave you guessing as to which way up to
>> actually read it
>> :-)
>
> Both the diagram on the website and the diagram on the unit turned out
> to be correct, but as viewed from the rear - NOT the side you would
> normally be looking at when connecting it up.
>

Excuse for being thick #959494949494

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From: Graham Wilson on 2 Dec 2006 10:14

"Phil Kyle" <philkyle2003(a)hotmail.com>

> Excuse for being thick #959494949494
>
> --
> Phil Kyle�

that's where you are going


From: Phill Kyle on 3 Dec 2006 10:40
"Graham Wilson" <FN73871(a)news.freenetname.co.uk> verbally sodomised in
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>
> "Phil Kyle" <philkyle2003(a)hotmail.com>
>
>> Excuse for being thick #959494949494
>>
>> --
>> Phil Kyle�
>
> that's where you are going
>
>
>

That doesn't even make sense, dipshit.

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