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From: bod on 14 Jun 2010 17:18 Adrian wrote: > bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were > saying: > >>>> If a seller states that a car has FSH and then you check it >>>> personally >>>> and it hasn't, then you simply avoid buying 'anything' from that >>>> seller....simple. > >>> But if FSH just means "All the paperwork for the handful of maintenance >>> I've ever bothered giving it" - as, it seems, it does when selling - >>> then surely there's no problem? > >> But a FSH to me, means a full service at least yearly > > "at least yearly"? Bear in mind that modern service schedules are often > 20k miles or two years. > > Can we agree on "to the schedule"? > >> besides of course any other repairs/maintenance etc, in addition. >> >> If the history falls short of that criteria, then it cannot be classed >> as full, IMO. > > So you're agreeing with me that Kev's friend is a deliberately disingenous > slug? > > I'd certainly agree that he was being disingenuous, yes. Bod
From: Ret. on 14 Jun 2010 17:24 bod wrote: > Adrian wrote: >> bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like >> they were saying: >> >>>>> If a seller states that a car has FSH and then you check it >>>>> personally >>>>> and it hasn't, then you simply avoid buying 'anything' from that >>>>> seller....simple. >> >>>> But if FSH just means "All the paperwork for the handful of >>>> maintenance I've ever bothered giving it" - as, it seems, it does >>>> when selling - then surely there's no problem? >> >>> But a FSH to me, means a full service at least yearly >> >> "at least yearly"? Bear in mind that modern service schedules are >> often 20k miles or two years. >> >> Can we agree on "to the schedule"? >> >>> besides of course any other repairs/maintenance etc, in addition. >>> >>> If the history falls short of that criteria, then it cannot be >>> classed as full, IMO. >> >> So you're agreeing with me that Kev's friend is a deliberately >> disingenous slug? >> >> > > I'd certainly agree that he was being disingenuous, yes. Without any formal definition of 'FSH' I cannot see how you can claim that. If car salesmen want specific information - then they should both ask for that specific information - and check it prior to creating a contract. -- Kev
From: bod on 14 Jun 2010 17:26 Ret. wrote: > bod wrote: >> Adrian wrote: >>> bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like >>> they were saying: >>> >>>>>> If a seller states that a car has FSH and then you check it >>>>>> personally >>>>>> and it hasn't, then you simply avoid buying 'anything' from that >>>>>> seller....simple. >>> >>>>> But if FSH just means "All the paperwork for the handful of >>>>> maintenance I've ever bothered giving it" - as, it seems, it does >>>>> when selling - then surely there's no problem? >>> >>>> But a FSH to me, means a full service at least yearly >>> >>> "at least yearly"? Bear in mind that modern service schedules are >>> often 20k miles or two years. >>> >>> Can we agree on "to the schedule"? >>> >>>> besides of course any other repairs/maintenance etc, in addition. >>>> >>>> If the history falls short of that criteria, then it cannot be >>>> classed as full, IMO. >>> >>> So you're agreeing with me that Kev's friend is a deliberately >>> disingenous slug? >>> >>> >> >> I'd certainly agree that he was being disingenuous, yes. > > Without any formal definition of 'FSH' I cannot see how you can claim > that. If car salesmen want specific information - then they should both > ask for that specific information - and check it prior to creating a > contract. > > Shouldn't 'Full' mean what it says on the tin? Bod
From: Mortimer on 14 Jun 2010 17:28 "bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:87nj8gFrg4U1(a)mid.individual.net... > But a FSH to me, means a full service at least yearly, besides of course > any other repairs/maintenance etc, in addition. > > If the history falls short of that criteria, then it cannot be classed as > full, IMO. Yes, I'd class FSH as being serviced according to the published schedule - every x thousand miles and/or every y months - together with details of any other work that might have been required in between services, due to unexpected failure/wear such as clutch, fan belt, brakes.
From: bod on 14 Jun 2010 17:29
Mortimer wrote: > "bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message > news:87nj8gFrg4U1(a)mid.individual.net... >> But a FSH to me, means a full service at least yearly, besides of >> course any other repairs/maintenance etc, in addition. >> >> If the history falls short of that criteria, then it cannot be >> classed as full, IMO. > > Yes, I'd class FSH as being serviced according to the published schedule > - every x thousand miles and/or every y months - together with details > of any other work that might have been required in between services, due > to unexpected failure/wear such as clutch, fan belt, brakes. > > Yes, you've put it more eloquently than me. Totally agree. Bod |