From: bod on
Adrian wrote:
> bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> saying:
>
>>>> If a seller states that a car has FSH and then you check it
>>>> personally
>>>> and it hasn't, then you simply avoid buying 'anything' from that
>>>> seller....simple.
>
>>> But if FSH just means "All the paperwork for the handful of maintenance
>>> I've ever bothered giving it" - as, it seems, it does when selling -
>>> then surely there's no problem?
>
>> But a FSH to me, means a full service at least yearly
>
> "at least yearly"? Bear in mind that modern service schedules are often
> 20k miles or two years.
>
> Can we agree on "to the schedule"?
>
>> besides of course any other repairs/maintenance etc, in addition.
>>
>> If the history falls short of that criteria, then it cannot be classed
>> as full, IMO.
>
> So you're agreeing with me that Kev's friend is a deliberately disingenous
> slug?
>
>

I'd certainly agree that he was being disingenuous, yes.

Bod
From: Ret. on
bod wrote:
> Adrian wrote:
>> bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like
>> they were saying:
>>
>>>>> If a seller states that a car has FSH and then you check it
>>>>> personally
>>>>> and it hasn't, then you simply avoid buying 'anything' from that
>>>>> seller....simple.
>>
>>>> But if FSH just means "All the paperwork for the handful of
>>>> maintenance I've ever bothered giving it" - as, it seems, it does
>>>> when selling - then surely there's no problem?
>>
>>> But a FSH to me, means a full service at least yearly
>>
>> "at least yearly"? Bear in mind that modern service schedules are
>> often 20k miles or two years.
>>
>> Can we agree on "to the schedule"?
>>
>>> besides of course any other repairs/maintenance etc, in addition.
>>>
>>> If the history falls short of that criteria, then it cannot be
>>> classed as full, IMO.
>>
>> So you're agreeing with me that Kev's friend is a deliberately
>> disingenous slug?
>>
>>
>
> I'd certainly agree that he was being disingenuous, yes.

Without any formal definition of 'FSH' I cannot see how you can claim that.
If car salesmen want specific information - then they should both ask for
that specific information - and check it prior to creating a contract.

--
Kev

From: bod on
Ret. wrote:
> bod wrote:
>> Adrian wrote:
>>> bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like
>>> they were saying:
>>>
>>>>>> If a seller states that a car has FSH and then you check it
>>>>>> personally
>>>>>> and it hasn't, then you simply avoid buying 'anything' from that
>>>>>> seller....simple.
>>>
>>>>> But if FSH just means "All the paperwork for the handful of
>>>>> maintenance I've ever bothered giving it" - as, it seems, it does
>>>>> when selling - then surely there's no problem?
>>>
>>>> But a FSH to me, means a full service at least yearly
>>>
>>> "at least yearly"? Bear in mind that modern service schedules are
>>> often 20k miles or two years.
>>>
>>> Can we agree on "to the schedule"?
>>>
>>>> besides of course any other repairs/maintenance etc, in addition.
>>>>
>>>> If the history falls short of that criteria, then it cannot be
>>>> classed as full, IMO.
>>>
>>> So you're agreeing with me that Kev's friend is a deliberately
>>> disingenous slug?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I'd certainly agree that he was being disingenuous, yes.
>
> Without any formal definition of 'FSH' I cannot see how you can claim
> that. If car salesmen want specific information - then they should both
> ask for that specific information - and check it prior to creating a
> contract.
>
>

Shouldn't 'Full' mean what it says on the tin?

Bod
From: Mortimer on
"bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:87nj8gFrg4U1(a)mid.individual.net...
> But a FSH to me, means a full service at least yearly, besides of course
> any other repairs/maintenance etc, in addition.
>
> If the history falls short of that criteria, then it cannot be classed as
> full, IMO.

Yes, I'd class FSH as being serviced according to the published schedule -
every x thousand miles and/or every y months - together with details of any
other work that might have been required in between services, due to
unexpected failure/wear such as clutch, fan belt, brakes.

From: bod on
Mortimer wrote:
> "bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:87nj8gFrg4U1(a)mid.individual.net...
>> But a FSH to me, means a full service at least yearly, besides of
>> course any other repairs/maintenance etc, in addition.
>>
>> If the history falls short of that criteria, then it cannot be
>> classed as full, IMO.
>
> Yes, I'd class FSH as being serviced according to the published schedule
> - every x thousand miles and/or every y months - together with details
> of any other work that might have been required in between services, due
> to unexpected failure/wear such as clutch, fan belt, brakes.
>
>

Yes, you've put it more eloquently than me. Totally agree.

Bod