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From: Brimstone on 15 Jun 2010 07:56 <boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message news:hv7onp$v2f$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:04:30 +0100 > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>In what way is "A fitter is a highly skilled tradesman trained to make new >>parts." not a simple statement of facts. > > http://www.yourdictionary.com/fitter > > fitter definition > > fit·ter (fit�?��Tr) > > noun > a person who fits; specif., > > 1. a person who alters or adjusts garments to fit > 2. a person who installs or adjusts machinery, pipes, etc. > > > No 2 sounds about right to me. Not sure where the "highly skilled" bit > comes > in. > >>>The word is used by most people to describe >>> a person who "fits" parts. >> >>Only in the context of motor vehicles. Most people are also aware that >>modern "mechanics" do not have the skills of their predecessors. > > Well its motor vehicles we're talking about here this being > uk.rec.driving. > >>Fitter work in all areas of engineering. They are the people who make >>things. > > Outside of a few small scale manufacturers such as Caterham no one > physically > makes car parts any more. They're all made by machine. In fact that > applies to > most spheres of heavy engineering these days. > As I said, stop trying to drag the rest of the world down to your own level.
From: bod on 15 Jun 2010 08:05 Brimstone wrote: > > <boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message > news:hv7onp$v2f$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... >> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:04:30 +0100 >> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> In what way is "A fitter is a highly skilled tradesman trained to >>> make new >>> parts." not a simple statement of facts. >> >> http://www.yourdictionary.com/fitter >> >> fitter definition >> >> fit·ter (fit�?��Tr) >> >> noun >> a person who fits; specif., >> >> 1. a person who alters or adjusts garments to fit >> 2. a person who installs or adjusts machinery, pipes, etc. >> >> >> No 2 sounds about right to me. Not sure where the "highly skilled" bit >> comes >> in. >> >>>> The word is used by most people to describe >>>> a person who "fits" parts. >>> >>> Only in the context of motor vehicles. Most people are also aware that >>> modern "mechanics" do not have the skills of their predecessors. >> >> Well its motor vehicles we're talking about here this being >> uk.rec.driving. >> >>> Fitter work in all areas of engineering. They are the people who make >>> things. >> >> Outside of a few small scale manufacturers such as Caterham no one >> physically >> makes car parts any more. They're all made by machine. In fact that >> applies to >> most spheres of heavy engineering these days. >> > As I said, stop trying to drag the rest of the world down to your own > level. > > Agreed, but having said that, there are probably degrees of classification of the term 'fitter'. I mean, would one compare a'Kwikfit' fitter to a time served garage fitter?..for example. Bod
From: Adrian on 15 Jun 2010 08:07 "Nkosi (ama-ecosse)" <minankosi(a)googlemail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > Modern cars get serviced at 2 to 3 year interval mostly, I have to not > so modern ones 1999 and 2001 and they both have manufacturers service > intervals of 15000 miles, that takes around a year and a half to two > years to reach. I'd be astonished if that service interval did not also have a time-based counterpart.
From: Brimstone on 15 Jun 2010 08:15 "bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:87p8koFpfrU1(a)mid.individual.net... > Brimstone wrote: >> >> <boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message >> news:hv7onp$v2f$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... >>> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:04:30 +0100 >>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> In what way is "A fitter is a highly skilled tradesman trained to make >>>> new >>>> parts." not a simple statement of facts. >>> >>> http://www.yourdictionary.com/fitter >>> >>> fitter definition >>> >>> fit·ter (fit�?��Tr) >>> >>> noun >>> a person who fits; specif., >>> >>> 1. a person who alters or adjusts garments to fit >>> 2. a person who installs or adjusts machinery, pipes, etc. >>> >>> >>> No 2 sounds about right to me. Not sure where the "highly skilled" bit >>> comes >>> in. >>> >>>>> The word is used by most people to describe >>>>> a person who "fits" parts. >>>> >>>> Only in the context of motor vehicles. Most people are also aware that >>>> modern "mechanics" do not have the skills of their predecessors. >>> >>> Well its motor vehicles we're talking about here this being >>> uk.rec.driving. >>> >>>> Fitter work in all areas of engineering. They are the people who make >>>> things. >>> >>> Outside of a few small scale manufacturers such as Caterham no one >>> physically >>> makes car parts any more. They're all made by machine. In fact that >>> applies to >>> most spheres of heavy engineering these days. >>> >> As I said, stop trying to drag the rest of the world down to your own >> level. >> >> > > Agreed, but having said that, there are probably degrees of > classification of the term 'fitter'. > I mean, would one compare a'Kwikfit' fitter to a time served garage > fitter?..for example. > I was referring to the correct meaning rather than the current bastardised usage.
From: GT on 15 Jun 2010 08:23
"Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:87p660FpkU17(a)mid.individual.net... > "GT" <a(a)b.c> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > >>>> This is the last service done under warranty. The car is thoroughly >>>> checked and a few warranty items are replaced. As the car was as good >>>> as new after this final warranty service > >>> Eh? It's now a 3yo, 30k mile car. The fact it has a full history does >>> not mean it's "as good as new". > >> Nothing to do with the service history, but the fact that all worn parts >> have been replaced under warranty, so from that respect the car is as >> good as new. > > Since when did a warranty cover normal wear & tear items? Never. It > covers manufacturing and material defects only. > >>>> He has a full record of all services and all work done, so there is no >>>> disputing that it is a full history of all services done, but as it >>>> does not exactly comply with the manufacturers recommended service >>>> interval, is this a "Full Service History" or not? Its certainly not a >>>> partial service history or plain "service history". > >>> It is not FSH. The car's servicing has been consistently lagging behind >>> the schedule for over half it's life. > >> But the service history is full - it might not have been all on schedule >> and might not comply with the manufacturer's recommendations, but the >> record history is full - as in nothing missing! > > See my other reply. What's the important bit - the paperwork or the > servicing? Important to who and in what context?? This discussion is about the term Full Service History - the paper record of all servicing. A full record of all work done to a car is the important bit - a buyer needs to know when the timing belt, spark plugs etc were last replaced - in other words, when was the *last* service done. In some respects the history of services is actually not too important - its simply an indicator as to whether the owner looked after the car or not. |