From: Brimstone on

<boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:04:30 +0100
> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>In what way is "A fitter is a highly skilled tradesman trained to make new
>>parts." not a simple statement of facts.
>
> http://www.yourdictionary.com/fitter
>
> fitter definition
>
> fit·ter (fit�?��Tr)
>
> noun
> a person who fits; specif.,
>
> 1. a person who alters or adjusts garments to fit
> 2. a person who installs or adjusts machinery, pipes, etc.
>
>
> No 2 sounds about right to me. Not sure where the "highly skilled" bit
> comes
> in.
>
>>>The word is used by most people to describe
>>> a person who "fits" parts.
>>
>>Only in the context of motor vehicles. Most people are also aware that
>>modern "mechanics" do not have the skills of their predecessors.
>
> Well its motor vehicles we're talking about here this being
> uk.rec.driving.
>
>>Fitter work in all areas of engineering. They are the people who make
>>things.
>
> Outside of a few small scale manufacturers such as Caterham no one
> physically
> makes car parts any more. They're all made by machine. In fact that
> applies to
> most spheres of heavy engineering these days.
>
As I said, stop trying to drag the rest of the world down to your own level.


From: bod on
Brimstone wrote:
>
> <boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message
> news:hv7onp$v2f$1(a)speranza.aioe.org...
>> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:04:30 +0100
>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> In what way is "A fitter is a highly skilled tradesman trained to
>>> make new
>>> parts." not a simple statement of facts.
>>
>> http://www.yourdictionary.com/fitter
>>
>> fitter definition
>>
>> fit·ter (fit�?��Tr)
>>
>> noun
>> a person who fits; specif.,
>>
>> 1. a person who alters or adjusts garments to fit
>> 2. a person who installs or adjusts machinery, pipes, etc.
>>
>>
>> No 2 sounds about right to me. Not sure where the "highly skilled" bit
>> comes
>> in.
>>
>>>> The word is used by most people to describe
>>>> a person who "fits" parts.
>>>
>>> Only in the context of motor vehicles. Most people are also aware that
>>> modern "mechanics" do not have the skills of their predecessors.
>>
>> Well its motor vehicles we're talking about here this being
>> uk.rec.driving.
>>
>>> Fitter work in all areas of engineering. They are the people who make
>>> things.
>>
>> Outside of a few small scale manufacturers such as Caterham no one
>> physically
>> makes car parts any more. They're all made by machine. In fact that
>> applies to
>> most spheres of heavy engineering these days.
>>
> As I said, stop trying to drag the rest of the world down to your own
> level.
>
>

Agreed, but having said that, there are probably degrees of
classification of the term 'fitter'.
I mean, would one compare a'Kwikfit' fitter to a time served garage
fitter?..for example.

Bod

From: Adrian on
"Nkosi (ama-ecosse)" <minankosi(a)googlemail.com> gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:

> Modern cars get serviced at 2 to 3 year interval mostly, I have to not
> so modern ones 1999 and 2001 and they both have manufacturers service
> intervals of 15000 miles, that takes around a year and a half to two
> years to reach.

I'd be astonished if that service interval did not also have a time-based
counterpart.
From: Brimstone on

"bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Brimstone wrote:
>>
>> <boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message
>> news:hv7onp$v2f$1(a)speranza.aioe.org...
>>> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:04:30 +0100
>>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> In what way is "A fitter is a highly skilled tradesman trained to make
>>>> new
>>>> parts." not a simple statement of facts.
>>>
>>> http://www.yourdictionary.com/fitter
>>>
>>> fitter definition
>>>
>>> fit·ter (fit�?��Tr)
>>>
>>> noun
>>> a person who fits; specif.,
>>>
>>> 1. a person who alters or adjusts garments to fit
>>> 2. a person who installs or adjusts machinery, pipes, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> No 2 sounds about right to me. Not sure where the "highly skilled" bit
>>> comes
>>> in.
>>>
>>>>> The word is used by most people to describe
>>>>> a person who "fits" parts.
>>>>
>>>> Only in the context of motor vehicles. Most people are also aware that
>>>> modern "mechanics" do not have the skills of their predecessors.
>>>
>>> Well its motor vehicles we're talking about here this being
>>> uk.rec.driving.
>>>
>>>> Fitter work in all areas of engineering. They are the people who make
>>>> things.
>>>
>>> Outside of a few small scale manufacturers such as Caterham no one
>>> physically
>>> makes car parts any more. They're all made by machine. In fact that
>>> applies to
>>> most spheres of heavy engineering these days.
>>>
>> As I said, stop trying to drag the rest of the world down to your own
>> level.
>>
>>
>
> Agreed, but having said that, there are probably degrees of
> classification of the term 'fitter'.
> I mean, would one compare a'Kwikfit' fitter to a time served garage
> fitter?..for example.
>
I was referring to the correct meaning rather than the current bastardised
usage.



From: GT on
"Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "GT" <a(a)b.c> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:
>
>>>> This is the last service done under warranty. The car is thoroughly
>>>> checked and a few warranty items are replaced. As the car was as good
>>>> as new after this final warranty service
>
>>> Eh? It's now a 3yo, 30k mile car. The fact it has a full history does
>>> not mean it's "as good as new".
>
>> Nothing to do with the service history, but the fact that all worn parts
>> have been replaced under warranty, so from that respect the car is as
>> good as new.
>
> Since when did a warranty cover normal wear & tear items? Never. It
> covers manufacturing and material defects only.
>
>>>> He has a full record of all services and all work done, so there is no
>>>> disputing that it is a full history of all services done, but as it
>>>> does not exactly comply with the manufacturers recommended service
>>>> interval, is this a "Full Service History" or not? Its certainly not a
>>>> partial service history or plain "service history".
>
>>> It is not FSH. The car's servicing has been consistently lagging behind
>>> the schedule for over half it's life.
>
>> But the service history is full - it might not have been all on schedule
>> and might not comply with the manufacturer's recommendations, but the
>> record history is full - as in nothing missing!
>
> See my other reply. What's the important bit - the paperwork or the
> servicing?

Important to who and in what context??

This discussion is about the term Full Service History - the paper record of
all servicing. A full record of all work done to a car is the important
bit - a buyer needs to know when the timing belt, spark plugs etc were last
replaced - in other words, when was the *last* service done. In some
respects the history of services is actually not too important - its simply
an indicator as to whether the owner looked after the car or not.