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From: Ret. on 15 Jun 2010 14:28 Nick Finnigan wrote: > Ret. wrote: >> Adrian wrote: >>> Nick Finnigan <nix(a)genie.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like >>> they were saying: >>> >>> >>> If it needs to be explained, I fear for the quality of "servicing" >>> Kev is doing. Still, his Chinese teflonFreds fit nicely into that >>> first point, Nick... > > It needs to be explained. > >> And, of course, it's utterly unknown for a trader to put new tyres >> on a second hand car? > > And that is a big clue as to how the car was maintained. As is a > steam clean. As is fresh underseal. > >> What on earth has the condition of the pads and disks >> got to do with the price of bread? > > If they are worn beyond limits, warn unevenly, new on one side, badly > lipped, sticking ... the car has not been well maintained. > If they are grooved and drilled the car has been pimped. > >> I can tell you now that my front pads are two/thirds worn and the >> front disks are within 1mm of the minimum width. When I next replace >> the pads I will also replace the disks. But what would the condition >> of those pads/disks tell a prospective purchaser? Nothing at all >> that's what. > > That the car has been maintained reasonably. > >> And, again, what does 'looking at' the suspension and steering tell >> you? I suppose if someone has been off-roading in his Ford Focus >> there might be some obvious signs of damage - but otherwise a visual >> inspection will tell you nothing. In any case - how many prospective >> buyers are capable of going to those lengths? > > Hardly any; so garages don't tart them up; so they give those of us > capable of looking a clue. > >> I tell you again that the Federal tyres I have on my car are turning >> out to be excellent. They are wearing well and uniformally, are >> extremely > > Matching tyres with uniform wear is also a big clue for good > maintenance. These are not really issues which affect me. Of the last nine cars I have owned, two have been brand new - and the other seven have been less than two years old and with low mileage. Hardly time to have been poorly maintained. -- Kev
From: Nick Finnigan on 15 Jun 2010 14:58 Ret. wrote: > > These are not really issues which affect me. Yes, Adrian said that. But you kept posting about them in ignorance.
From: Ret. on 15 Jun 2010 15:07 Nick Finnigan wrote: > Ret. wrote: > >> >> These are not really issues which affect me. > > Yes, Adrian said that. But you kept posting about them in ignorance. I don't believe so. Many of the issues you raised may have applied to buying a used car years ago - but advancements in metallurgy and long-life bearings and ball-joints etc, mean that unless you are buying a very old car, you simply will not find the sort of problems you refer to. Not many drivers today buy very old cars. -- Kev
From: Nick Finnigan on 15 Jun 2010 15:15 Ret. wrote: > Nick Finnigan wrote: >> Ret. wrote: >> >>> >>> These are not really issues which affect me. >> >> Yes, Adrian said that. But you kept posting about them in ignorance. > > I don't believe so. Many of the issues you raised may have applied to > buying a used car years ago - but advancements in metallurgy and > long-life bearings and ball-joints etc, mean that unless you are buying > a very old car, you simply will not find the sort of problems you refer > to. Not many drivers today buy very old cars. > I do find the problem I refer to on cars which are not very old. But you keep on posting about them in ignorance
From: Ret. on 15 Jun 2010 15:16
Nick Finnigan wrote: > Ret. wrote: >> Nick Finnigan wrote: >>> Ret. wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> These are not really issues which affect me. >>> >>> Yes, Adrian said that. But you kept posting about them in >>> ignorance. >> >> I don't believe so. Many of the issues you raised may have applied to >> buying a used car years ago - but advancements in metallurgy and >> long-life bearings and ball-joints etc, mean that unless you are >> buying a very old car, you simply will not find the sort of problems >> you refer to. Not many drivers today buy very old cars. > > I do. But you keep on posting about them in ignorance. Possibly because most of the world has moved on Nick... I do know what buying cars in those days was like. My first four wheeled car was an Austin A35 van. On one occasion when I went over a bump the floor fell out and I ended up sitting a foot lower.. Took a lot of welding to sort that out. -- Kev |