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From: Nick Finnigan on 15 Jun 2010 15:18 Ret. wrote: > > Possibly because most of the world has moved on Nick... I do know what > buying cars in those days was like. You don't know what buying a 10yo car today is like? but... My first four wheeled car was an > Austin A35 van. On one occasion when I went over a bump the floor fell > out and I ended up sitting a foot lower.. Took a lot of welding to sort > that out. That is not poor maintenance. But...
From: GT on 15 Jun 2010 16:04 "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:-9udnTfrXchEMYrRnZ2dnUVZ8gGdnZ2d(a)bt.com... > > "Mortimer" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message > news:MpmdnWqIrY6dNorRnZ2dnUVZ8s2dnZ2d(a)brightview.co.uk... >> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:u7ednf5H04A96orRnZ2dnUVZ8vadnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>> >>> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >>> news:4c17737b$0$6156$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> >>>>> http://www.dtwd.wa.gov.au/apprenticentre/detcms/apprenticeships-and-training/apprenticentre/program-descriptors/apprenticeships/metals-manufacturing-and-services/mechanical-fitter.en?oid=com.arsdigita.cms.contenttypes.ProgramDescriptor-id-323038 >>>> >>>> Another war of words! That link does indeed demonstrate that >>>> "mechanical fitters" in some areas do make parts for machinery, but >>>> AIUI we're talking about garage 'fitters', not mechanical fitters. >>>> >>> Garage fitters don't exist anymore. Cars aren't designed for parts to be >>> repaired, only for parts to be changed. >> >> I've never heard the word "fitter" to mean a person who *makes* parts, >> only to mean a person who fits them ("fitter - one who fits") - a "garage >> fitter" in the sense that GT meant it. >> >> I can see where the confusion lies: "fitter" for a person who makes (eg >> machines) parts is a misnomer. > See my other post in which there is a link to a description of a fitter's > job. A 'mechanical fitter' as opposed to a 'parts fitter'.
From: Harry Bloomfield on 15 Jun 2010 16:06 Ret. explained : > I stick meticulously to the manufacturer's recommendations. I have blank > copies of the official manufacturer's servicing schedules - and tick each of > the boxes as I go along. I keep all servicing item receipts, and I stamp the > book with my own address stamp and then sign it. > > So, when a salesman asks me: "Does your car have a full service history?" Do > I just answer "Yes" - or do I need to qualify my answer? > > To date I have always replied; "Yes - although I have done the servicing > myself." I don't really see why I should have to do that however - because a > FSH is a FSH - even if the services have not been carried out at a garage. For FSH I would only expect the book stamped up by a dealer and all it means is that the service and inspections have been done - it does not mean that any extra work found needing to be done has been done. For that, you would need copies of receipts for the extra work. With the 75 all I received was the book all fully stamped up to current, which tells only a fraction of the story. Oil services all done on time with date + mileage and the same for inspections - pretty useless really, when you need to pick up the pieces and need to start guessing at what now needs to be done. Which is why, like you, I like to maintain myself and check a new to me car end to end thoroughly. -- Regards, Harry (M1BYT) (L) http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk
From: GT on 15 Jun 2010 16:15 "Mortimer" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:04udnTSY-IzPNIrRnZ2dnUVZ7vSdnZ2d(a)brightview.co.uk... > "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message > news:4c177bdc$0$5072$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> Just because the car hasn't been serviced according to some time or >> mileage guidelines doesn't make it not a *full* set of records, AKA a >> Full Service History. > > No, we're not talking about a full (complete) set of records, though that > is a Good Thing. We're talking about whether the car has been "fully" > serviced, ie at the manufacturer's recommended intervals of time/distance, > and whether there are records to prove that. No we were discussing whether the term Full Service History indicates what you have said or what would be understood if you looked the term up in a dictionary. This would be clearer, if you had not clipped most of the useful parts out of the discussion - usually an indication of a poster trying to hide something > In an ideal world, there would be a centralised record of services that > have been carried out on a vehicle (as there is for MOT tests and the > defects found - if any), to which all servicing bodies would be required > to submit proof. Agree with that. > But in the absence of that, and in the absence of a way of proving that a > competent private individual has carried out a service, we're left with > paperwork. .... which we call the service history. If it is a full history, then we can call it a full service history. If parts of the documentation in the history are missing, then its a partial service history. If we have no record of the cars service history then we say no service history - this doesn't mean (as your logic implies) that the car has never been serviced, but simply that we have no proof of it!!
From: Ret. on 15 Jun 2010 17:24
Harry Bloomfield wrote: > Ret. explained : >> I stick meticulously to the manufacturer's recommendations. I have >> blank copies of the official manufacturer's servicing schedules - >> and tick each of the boxes as I go along. I keep all servicing item >> receipts, and I stamp the book with my own address stamp and then >> sign it. So, when a salesman asks me: "Does your car have a full service >> history?" Do I just answer "Yes" - or do I need to qualify my answer? >> >> To date I have always replied; "Yes - although I have done the >> servicing myself." I don't really see why I should have to do that >> however - because a FSH is a FSH - even if the services have not >> been carried out at a garage. > > For FSH I would only expect the book stamped up by a dealer and all it > means is that the service and inspections have been done - it does not > mean that any extra work found needing to be done has been done. For > that, you would need copies of receipts for the extra work. > > With the 75 all I received was the book all fully stamped up to > current, which tells only a fraction of the story. Oil services all > done on time with date + mileage and the same for inspections - pretty > useless really, when you need to pick up the pieces and need to start > guessing at what now needs to be done. > > Which is why, like you, I like to maintain myself and check a new to > me car end to end thoroughly. Absolutely. Alongside the service records that I keep - I also keep a log of everything I do to the car, right down to replacing wiper blades - when and at what mileage. -- Kev |