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From: bod on 15 Jun 2010 03:38
> bod wrote:
>> Mortimer wrote:
>>> "bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> But a FSH to me, means a full service at least yearly, besides of
>>>> course any other repairs/maintenance etc, in addition.
>>>> If the history falls short of that criteria, then it cannot be
>>>> classed as full, IMO.
>>> Yes, I'd class FSH as being serviced according to the published
>>> schedule - every x thousand miles and/or every y months - together
>>> with details of any other work that might have been required in
>>> between services, due to unexpected failure/wear such as clutch, fan
>>> belt, brakes.
>> Yes, you've put it more eloquently than me. Totally agree.
> Nothing there about *who* carries out the work. So I take it that you
> would agree that properly carried out DIY servicing also constitutes a
> FSH - without any need for the 'trader-in' to explain that?
It's those magic stamps/franks from a garage that normally
constitutes a 'proven' FSH, IMO.
From: Adrian on 15 Jun 2010 04:28
bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> Come on Adrian, with FSH doc's that are virtually foolproof to the
> common man and so easily obtainable over the internet for £20. I can see
> dealers buying them and applying them to a few cars a week.
And, as soon as it's done with an intent to deceive for profit, it
becomes Fraud. And that's not minor.
> Plenty of private sellers and dealers will be doing it, IMO.
Some will, sure. But "plenty"? No.
From: Mortimer on 15 Jun 2010 04:30
"bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
>> "Full Service History" is surely nothing more than a complete record of
>> all maintenance and remedial work carried out on the vehicle and by whom
>> the work was done?
Yes, but the thing that makes it "full" is that *all* the scheduled services
have been carried out, rather just a selection when the owner feels like it
or can afford it
From: Brimstone on 15 Jun 2010 04:55
"Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
>> Come on Adrian, with FSH doc's that are virtually foolproof to the
>> common man and so easily obtainable over the internet for £20. I can see
>> dealers buying them and applying them to a few cars a week.
> And, as soon as it's done with an intent to deceive for profit, it
> becomes Fraud. And that's not minor.
>> Plenty of private sellers and dealers will be doing it, IMO.
> Some will, sure. But "plenty"? No.
Plenty in the sense of those who are already fiddling their customers.
From: boltar2003 on 15 Jun 2010 05:21
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 09:53:47 +0100
"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> most "mechanics" nowadays, are just "fitters".
>A fitter is a highly skilled tradesman trained to make new parts.
Unless they've got some lathes and presses in the back room how exactly does
he go about doing that? Even insignificant cars parts are made to micrometre
tolerances these days. Theres no way I'd want a "fitter" plonking something
he'd knocked up on his Black & Decker in my car.