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From: Adrian on 28 Sep 2008 15:09 Keith <keith(a)mailinator.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>>>On *most* 30 roads it's safe to do 45+ at *most* times of the day. >>>How do you know that, unequivocally? >> And even if it is safe most of the time, the law is in place to >> accommodate those instances when it isn't. > So do you think the law should be in place to accommodate those > instances when it isn't safe to do 70 on a motorway? Or, indeed, all those thousands of miles of country lines which are default NSL - so 60 limit - but where half that is too high. Any driver _HAS_ to be able to clearly identify an appropriate speed for the conditions where that speed is below the limit - so why is that ability presumed to disappear at an arbitrary number set before most drivers were born?
From: Brimstone on 28 Sep 2008 15:29 Adrian wrote: > Keith <keith(a)mailinator.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they > were saying: > >>>>> On *most* 30 roads it's safe to do 45+ at *most* times of the day. > >>>> How do you know that, unequivocally? > >>> And even if it is safe most of the time, the law is in place to >>> accommodate those instances when it isn't. > >> So do you think the law should be in place to accommodate those >> instances when it isn't safe to do 70 on a motorway? > > Or, indeed, all those thousands of miles of country lines which are > default NSL - so 60 limit - but where half that is too high. > > Any driver _HAS_ to be able to clearly identify an appropriate speed > for the conditions where that speed is below the limit - so why is > that ability presumed to disappear at an arbitrary number set before > most drivers were born? The speed limit is the maximum velocity one is permitted to attain. The it is not compulsory to cheieve that figure. (Time for the pub I think. :-) )
From: Chris Lawrence on 28 Sep 2008 15:39 Adrian wrote: > Any driver _HAS_ to be able to clearly identify an appropriate speed for > the conditions where that speed is below the limit - so why is that > ability presumed to disappear at an arbitrary number set before most > drivers were born? Well said - I'd like to see all speed _limits_ removed and replaced with speed advisories. But that will never, ever happen. The powers that be don't want people thinking for themselves, it could catch on. Chris
From: OG on 28 Sep 2008 16:47 "Chris Lawrence" <news(a)holosys.co.uk> wrote in message news:48dfdd6b$0$518$bed64819(a)news.gradwell.net... > Adrian wrote: >> Any driver _HAS_ to be able to clearly identify an appropriate speed for >> the conditions where that speed is below the limit - so why is that >> ability presumed to disappear at an arbitrary number set before most >> drivers were born? > > Well said - I'd like to see all speed _limits_ removed and replaced with > speed advisories. But that will never, ever happen. The powers that be > don't want people thinking for themselves, it could catch on. > > Chris The problem being that a significant proportion of people will only think _of_ themselves. For example country A roads with good sightlines and a 40 limit. Motorists on the A road may well consider 60 to be a safe speed, not appreciating that by travelling at that speed they prevent other motorists crossing or turning into the A road from side roads.
From: Ret. on 1 Oct 2008 09:19
"Chris Lawrence" <news(a)holosys.co.uk> wrote in message news:48dfdd6b$0$518$bed64819(a)news.gradwell.net... > Adrian wrote: >> Any driver _HAS_ to be able to clearly identify an appropriate speed for >> the conditions where that speed is below the limit - so why is that >> ability presumed to disappear at an arbitrary number set before most >> drivers were born? > > Well said - I'd like to see all speed _limits_ removed and replaced with > speed advisories. But that will never, ever happen. The powers that be > don't want people thinking for themselves, it could catch on. The sad fact is that many motorists cannot think for themselves and that is why we have traffic laws. Why do the majority of drivers fail to indicate at roundabouts? (Either on the approach to, or immediately prior to leaving)? Are these motorists 'thinking for themselves'? *If* all drivers could be relied upon to drive at sensible speeds for the type of road and conditions - then speed limits would be unnecessary. They cannot, and there is an insufficient number of police officers available to enforce any notion of a law of 'driving at an inappropriate speed for the conditions' - hence the need for speed limits. Ret. |