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From: Graz on 20 Sep 2008 09:39 On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 09:56:34 +0100, "Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOO!!!!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote: >"Graz" <graz(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >news:48d420fa.64201890(a)news.motzarella.org... >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:05:46 +0100, "Dr Zoidberg" >> <AlexNOOO!!!!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote: >> >>>"Graz" <graz(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>>news:48d3d68e.45149984(a)news.motzarella.org... >>>> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:09:29 +0100, "Dr Zoidberg" >>>> <AlexNOOO!!!!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>>"Conor" <conor_turton(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:6jhvktF3538tU7(a)mid.individual.net... >>>>>> In article <gavf70$4ag$1(a)aioe.org>, Road_Hog says... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Graz" <graz(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:48d33ccf.5790687(a)news.motzarella.org... >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > 55mph is hardly "dawdling". The "official" speed limit is neither >>>>>>> > a >>>>>>> > mandatory speed or even a target. You want to be getting up >>>>>>> > earlier! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If the conditions allow it, then you should drive at the speed limit >>>>>>> (making >>>>>>> progress) to complete your journey as soon as can possible and to not >>>>>>> inconvenience or slow up any other drivers. So yes, it is actually a >>>>>>> target. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Wrong. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>While it's not so strict as a target , there is an expectation that >>>>>drivers >>>>>will make reasonable progress. >>>>>That means doing a reasonable percentage of the speed limit where >>>>>road/vehicle/conditions permit. >>>>> >>>>>You would certainly fail a driving test for not doing 30 where it was >>>>>safe >>>>>to do so , such as on a main road rather than a quiet residential >>>>>street. >>>> >>>> You would not fail for doing 25 to 28 in a 30 zone. >>> >>>If it was a decent width road and there were no hazards or other >>>conditions >>>that dictated a lower speed then you absolutely would fail for "failing to >>>make proper progress" if you were just doing 25. >> >> If your speed varied between 25 and 28, you wouldn't. >> Doing 25 isn't failing to make proper progress. It's just cautious >> driving. As you might expect from a beginner. >> > >To pass a test you are supposed to be a competent driver and not a beginner >, and one of the things that you are supposed to show is that you can drive >in a confident fashion and not be excessively cautious As someone attempting to pass the test you are, by definition, a beginner. Doing 25-28 in a 30 zone isn't excessive caution. Doing 40 in a 30 zone, as most 'competent' drivers seem to do, will guarantee a fail.
From: Graz on 20 Sep 2008 09:40 On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 12:51:14 +0100, "Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOO!!!!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote: >"M............" <mmmmmmtheobvious(a)freedomnames.co.uk> wrote in message >news:f76xu9h0y219.1mczqvluz22ud$.dlg(a)40tude.net... >> Following up to Dr Zoidberg >> >>> To pass a test you are supposed to be a competent driver and not a >>> beginner >> >> how can you not be a beginner? > > >Let's see.... > >Try "having lessons and practicing to improve the standard of your driving" >before taking a test? Having done so, and not having yet passed the test, you're still a beginner.
From: Road_Hog on 20 Sep 2008 10:05 "Graz" <graz(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:48d4fc7a.28178718(a)news.motzarella.org... > I already know what making progress means. In a 30 zone it means > going at 40 or more. Try doing that during a driving test. Then, > when you have, come back and tell us what happened. > Your second sentence has just proved, yet again, that you don't know what you're talking about. Don't come back until you've spoken to a traffic officer.
From: Graz on 20 Sep 2008 12:07 On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:05:59 +0100, "Road_Hog" <nospam(a)nospam.com> wrote: > >"Graz" <graz(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >news:48d4fc7a.28178718(a)news.motzarella.org... >> I already know what making progress means. In a 30 zone it means >> going at 40 or more. Try doing that during a driving test. Then, >> when you have, come back and tell us what happened. >> > >Your second sentence has just proved, yet again, that you don't know what >you're talking about. Don't come back until you've spoken to a traffic >officer. Talk to a traffic officer yourself. Preferably when you get stopped for "making progress" in a 30 zone. Don't come back until this happens.
From: Rob on 20 Sep 2008 12:16
AndrewR wrote: | On Sep 19, 5:31 pm, "M............" | <mmmmmmtheobvi...(a)freedomnames.co.uk> wrote: | || i woudlnt mind a bike, no front number plate, I could do 100 on NSL || roads...... | | If you go past a camera van the operator, having determined that | you're speeding, can make a note of your reg number and that is, | apparently, sufficient evidence to do you. No it isn't. If it *were* true then not only could they save a fortune by replacing their expensive speed recording cameras with a cheapo digital camera, they would also have an unlimited revenue stream from both speeders and the law-abiding. -- Rob |