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From: Keith on 17 Sep 2008 18:42
On 17 Sep 2008 at 22:23, kid joe wrote:
> This is a big problem, cos I've only had my license 8 months, so still
> in the probationary period, and I already have 3 points from a
> misfunctioning Gatzo a while back. Is there any chance that a court
> could just give me a fine and no points for this?

Strange to say, you may just be in luck - if you were doing 100, then
you'll probably get a short driving ban, but this won't actually
contribute any points to your licence, so you won't get the 6 points
needed to force you to do a re-test.

From your description it sounds like you completely misjudged an
overtake and panicked when you realized you were approaching the brow of
a hill and needed to get back on your own side of the road quickly. In
that case, forget about the points - you should consider yourself bloody
lucky to be alive. Learning to overtake safely is one of the most
difficult things to get right - and redoing the L-test certainly won't
help you with it...

From: Road_Hog on 18 Sep 2008 03:05

"Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6jeba0F2t6reU2(a)mid.individual.net...
> Overtaking at "a ton" (so a real 90+) over the brow of a hill with
> restricted visibility in a 60 limit... Forget a fixed penalty, and get
> your suit dry-cleaned. You'll be needing it.

Yes, isn't there a second category of speeding when you're doing 150% of the
speed limit, i.e. over 50% extra of the speed limit?

I think it is termed excessive speeding (as a category, not just
descriptive) as opposed to just speeding.

As someone has already said, the fact that you were doing nearly a ton,
might just get you out of the poop, as you're likely to receive a short term
ban, which would mean no points.

However, if you continue to take risks like this, you won't need to worry
about bans, points and fines as you'll be dead soon, unfortunately some poor
person coming the other way is likely to suffer the same fate.


From: Adrian on 18 Sep 2008 03:12
"Road_Hog" <nospam(a)nospam.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

>> Overtaking at "a ton" (so a real 90+) over the brow of a hill with
>> restricted visibility in a 60 limit... Forget a fixed penalty, and get
>> your suit dry-cleaned. You'll be needing it.

> Yes, isn't there a second category of speeding when you're doing 150% of
> the speed limit, i.e. over 50% extra of the speed limit?

No.

> I think it is termed excessive speeding (as a category, not just
> descriptive) as opposed to just speeding.

It just means you aren't going to get offered a fixed penalty, and will
be looking at your (freshly polished shoes) in front of a stern
magistrate's glare.
From: Dr Zoidberg on 18 Sep 2008 03:12
"Road_Hog" <nospam(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6jeba0F2t6reU2(a)mid.individual.net...
>> Overtaking at "a ton" (so a real 90+) over the brow of a hill with
>> restricted visibility in a 60 limit... Forget a fixed penalty, and get
>> your suit dry-cleaned. You'll be needing it.
>
> Yes, isn't there a second category of speeding when you're doing 150% of
> the speed limit, i.e. over 50% extra of the speed limit?
>

Not a separate offence , but the sentencing guidelines mean higher penalties

--
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger , then I hide until it goes away"

www.drzoidberg.co.uk

From: The Real Doctor on 18 Sep 2008 04:44
On 18 Sep, 08:12, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> It just means you aren't going to get offered a fixed penalty, and will
> be looking at your (freshly polished shoes) in front of a stern
> magistrate's glare.

Up here - south west Scotland - the sheriffs regularly hand out bans
for anything over 80 on the single carriageway A75.

Ian
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