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From: John_H on 1 Dec 2009 01:00 F Murtz wrote: > >Apparently in the EU loads of refrigerating devices now use hydrocarbon >refrigerants Much the same as here. (New domestics fridges have been using hydrocarbons for years.) Around the time of the of the Montreal Protocol (1989?) there was a proposal to ban halocarbons outright and move to hydrocarbons. It's widely believed that US industrial interests (eg Dupont) won out over the environmentalists, particularly in the automotive arena where Dupont has long had a large stake (the GM connection). AFAIK USA is now the only country on the planet that doesn't allow hydrocarbon refrigerants to be used in mobile air conditioning (ie cars). It also means that any car manufacturer who exports to the USA (which is most, if not all of 'em) doesn't have much choice but to follow suit. Logically, the days of halocarbon refrigerants are numbered and common sense will prevail over US industrial interests! -- John H
From: Clocky on 1 Dec 2009 06:22
"John_H" <john4721(a)inbox.com> wrote in message news:c5c9h59sjh43tr0dhoq59r8akututn0ja1(a)4ax.com... >F Murtz wrote: >> >>Apparently in the EU loads of refrigerating devices now use hydrocarbon >>refrigerants > > Much the same as here. (New domestics fridges have been using > hydrocarbons for years.) > > Around the time of the of the Montreal Protocol (1989?) there was a > proposal to ban halocarbons outright and move to hydrocarbons. It's > widely believed that US industrial interests (eg Dupont) won out over > the environmentalists, particularly in the automotive arena where > Dupont has long had a large stake (the GM connection). > > AFAIK USA is now the only country on the planet that doesn't allow > hydrocarbon refrigerants to be used in mobile air conditioning (ie > cars). It also means that any car manufacturer who exports to the USA > (which is most, if not all of 'em) doesn't have much choice but to > follow suit. > > Logically, the days of halocarbon refrigerants are numbered and common > sense will prevail over US industrial interests! > The switch to R134a was only ever supposed to be a stopgap but the fuckers won't let it go, so to speak ;-) |