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From: Jason James on 23 Jun 2010 00:31 "Sylvia Else" <sylvia(a)not.here.invalid> wrote in message news:88b8rgFdp0U1(a)mid.individual.net... > On 22/06/2010 5:44 PM, D Walford wrote: >> On 22/06/2010 11:49 AM, Sylvia Else wrote: >>> I've posted in the past about how my keyless entry remote keyfobs kept >>> failing. I have three, and they all misbehaved. I tried replacing >>> batteries, I tried adding packing to increase the contact pressure, and >>> nothing worked. >>> >>> Finally, out of frustration, I bought batteries with solder tags, and >>> soldered the batteries to the circuit boards. Net result - perfect >>> reliability. >>> >>> Indeed, by taking a grinding tool to the inside of the fob, I was able >>> to assemble the circuit plus soldered battery (which is larger than the >>> original) back where it belongs. >>> >>> The only remaining question is - why can't Subaru make contacts that >>> work properly. >> >> How old is your Suby? >> Never had a problem with our 06 Impreza or the current Forester. >> Mates business has 6 Outbacks and he's never mentioned that problem. >> >> >> Daryl > > It's a 2001 model Liberty, which we've had since it was new. The problem > seemed somewhat worse in cold weather, but expriments involving putting > the fobs into a fridge didn't produce any obvious result. > > From time to time, I disassembled the fobs and put them back together. > They invariably worked after reassembly, only to fail again later. Its the age-old problem where batteries leak minute amts of acid or whatever, which then makes a good contact difficult with the contacts due corrosian. TV/DVD/etc etc remotes get like this as well,..where you have to spin the batteries to re-establish contact. Soldering is an excellent solution. Jason
From: Sylvia Else on 23 Jun 2010 00:48 On 23/06/2010 2:31 PM, Jason James wrote: > "Sylvia Else"<sylvia(a)not.here.invalid> wrote in message > news:88b8rgFdp0U1(a)mid.individual.net... >> On 22/06/2010 5:44 PM, D Walford wrote: >>> On 22/06/2010 11:49 AM, Sylvia Else wrote: >>>> I've posted in the past about how my keyless entry remote keyfobs kept >>>> failing. I have three, and they all misbehaved. I tried replacing >>>> batteries, I tried adding packing to increase the contact pressure, and >>>> nothing worked. >>>> >>>> Finally, out of frustration, I bought batteries with solder tags, and >>>> soldered the batteries to the circuit boards. Net result - perfect >>>> reliability. >>>> >>>> Indeed, by taking a grinding tool to the inside of the fob, I was able >>>> to assemble the circuit plus soldered battery (which is larger than the >>>> original) back where it belongs. >>>> >>>> The only remaining question is - why can't Subaru make contacts that >>>> work properly. >>> >>> How old is your Suby? >>> Never had a problem with our 06 Impreza or the current Forester. >>> Mates business has 6 Outbacks and he's never mentioned that problem. >>> >>> >>> Daryl >> >> It's a 2001 model Liberty, which we've had since it was new. The problem >> seemed somewhat worse in cold weather, but expriments involving putting >> the fobs into a fridge didn't produce any obvious result. >> >> From time to time, I disassembled the fobs and put them back together. >> They invariably worked after reassembly, only to fail again later. > > Its the age-old problem where batteries leak minute amts of acid or > whatever, which then makes a good contact difficult with the contacts due > corrosian. TV/DVD/etc etc remotes get like this as well,..where you have to > spin the batteries to re-establish contact. Soldering is an excellent > solution. > > Jason > > I don't see why this should affect these silver-oxide batteries. The contact points are nowhere near a place where the battery could leak. Sylvia.
From: Jason James on 23 Jun 2010 02:11 "Sylvia Else" <sylvia(a)not.here.invalid> wrote in message news:88di1hFesiU2(a)mid.individual.net... > On 23/06/2010 2:31 PM, Jason James wrote: >> "Sylvia Else"<sylvia(a)not.here.invalid> wrote in message >> news:88b8rgFdp0U1(a)mid.individual.net... >>> On 22/06/2010 5:44 PM, D Walford wrote: >>>> On 22/06/2010 11:49 AM, Sylvia Else wrote: >>>>> I've posted in the past about how my keyless entry remote keyfobs kept >>>>> failing. I have three, and they all misbehaved. I tried replacing >>>>> batteries, I tried adding packing to increase the contact pressure, >>>>> and >>>>> nothing worked. >>>>> >>>>> Finally, out of frustration, I bought batteries with solder tags, and >>>>> soldered the batteries to the circuit boards. Net result - perfect >>>>> reliability. >>>>> >>>>> Indeed, by taking a grinding tool to the inside of the fob, I was able >>>>> to assemble the circuit plus soldered battery (which is larger than >>>>> the >>>>> original) back where it belongs. >>>>> >>>>> The only remaining question is - why can't Subaru make contacts that >>>>> work properly. >>>> >>>> How old is your Suby? >>>> Never had a problem with our 06 Impreza or the current Forester. >>>> Mates business has 6 Outbacks and he's never mentioned that problem. >>>> >>>> >>>> Daryl >>> >>> It's a 2001 model Liberty, which we've had since it was new. The problem >>> seemed somewhat worse in cold weather, but expriments involving putting >>> the fobs into a fridge didn't produce any obvious result. >>> >>> From time to time, I disassembled the fobs and put them back together. >>> They invariably worked after reassembly, only to fail again later. >> >> Its the age-old problem where batteries leak minute amts of acid or >> whatever, which then makes a good contact difficult with the contacts due >> corrosian. TV/DVD/etc etc remotes get like this as well,..where you have >> to >> spin the batteries to re-establish contact. Soldering is an excellent >> solution. >> >> Jason >> >> > > I don't see why this should affect these silver-oxide batteries. The > contact points are nowhere near a place where the battery could leak. OK,..I dont have a car- remote,..but may I suggest the proof is in the eating :-) Jason
From: Sylvia Else on 23 Jun 2010 02:51 On 23/06/2010 4:11 PM, Jason James wrote: > "Sylvia Else"<sylvia(a)not.here.invalid> wrote in message > news:88di1hFesiU2(a)mid.individual.net... >> On 23/06/2010 2:31 PM, Jason James wrote: >>> "Sylvia Else"<sylvia(a)not.here.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:88b8rgFdp0U1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>> On 22/06/2010 5:44 PM, D Walford wrote: >>>>> On 22/06/2010 11:49 AM, Sylvia Else wrote: >>>>>> I've posted in the past about how my keyless entry remote keyfobs kept >>>>>> failing. I have three, and they all misbehaved. I tried replacing >>>>>> batteries, I tried adding packing to increase the contact pressure, >>>>>> and >>>>>> nothing worked. >>>>>> >>>>>> Finally, out of frustration, I bought batteries with solder tags, and >>>>>> soldered the batteries to the circuit boards. Net result - perfect >>>>>> reliability. >>>>>> >>>>>> Indeed, by taking a grinding tool to the inside of the fob, I was able >>>>>> to assemble the circuit plus soldered battery (which is larger than >>>>>> the >>>>>> original) back where it belongs. >>>>>> >>>>>> The only remaining question is - why can't Subaru make contacts that >>>>>> work properly. >>>>> >>>>> How old is your Suby? >>>>> Never had a problem with our 06 Impreza or the current Forester. >>>>> Mates business has 6 Outbacks and he's never mentioned that problem. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Daryl >>>> >>>> It's a 2001 model Liberty, which we've had since it was new. The problem >>>> seemed somewhat worse in cold weather, but expriments involving putting >>>> the fobs into a fridge didn't produce any obvious result. >>>> >>>> From time to time, I disassembled the fobs and put them back together. >>>> They invariably worked after reassembly, only to fail again later. >>> >>> Its the age-old problem where batteries leak minute amts of acid or >>> whatever, which then makes a good contact difficult with the contacts due >>> corrosian. TV/DVD/etc etc remotes get like this as well,..where you have >>> to >>> spin the batteries to re-establish contact. Soldering is an excellent >>> solution. >>> >>> Jason >>> >>> >> >> I don't see why this should affect these silver-oxide batteries. The >> contact points are nowhere near a place where the battery could leak. > > OK,..I dont have a car- remote,..but may I suggest the proof is in the > eating :-) > Certainly soldering appears to be a solution, I'm just unconvinced as to the failure mechanism. Sylvia.
From: Dingo on 23 Jun 2010 02:58
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 23:33:54 +0800, "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote: >Dingo wrote: >> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 19:22:19 +0800, "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> >> wrote: >> >>> $6000, and expect to drop from there. >> >> Thanks. Yeah, that's what I would have thought. I've listed it online >> for a bit more and said I'd take offers. > >Good luck with the sale ;-) Had a bit of misfortune getting the car ready and need to get a replacement windscreen wiper assembly (sans motor). Trying to hunt a second-hand one down, but is there a website I can search? Thanks. |