From: Epsilon on
bringyagrogalong wrote:
> Sylvia Else <syl...(a)not.here.invalid> wrote:
>> bringyagrogalong wrote:
>>> B J Foster<plagiarist...(a)yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>> bringyagrogalong wrote:
>>>>> Sylvia Else<syl...(a)not.here.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> Noodle wrote:
>>>> ...
>>
>>>>> But quite apart from the stupidity of his argument he is also
>>>>> urging people to break the law.
>>
>>>> Since when was refusing to pay a fine against the law, idiot
>>
>>> Taken to its ultimate conclusion refusing to pay a fine results in
>>> contempt of court and a prison term.
>>
>> Even if that were true, it wouldn't mean that refusing to pay the
>> fine was against the law. It would merely be an example of how
>> contempt of court is.
>>
>> NSW legislation goes into considerable detail about what happens when
>> people don't pay fines. No mention of contempt of court there. I
>> haven't checked, but I expect other states have similar legislation.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> If the court orders that the fine be paid and you still refuse to pay
> it, you are in contempt of court which can result in a prison
> sentence.

Too bad about the legislation positively barring that nonsensical notion.

> Noodle said "Refuse to pay your fines" In fact he said "REFUSE TO PAY
> YOUR FINES!"
>
> If you take his advice that'll be were you end up.

Ignorant and boring little tyke, aren't you!
From: Hunter on
On 9/06/2010 9:57 PM, bringyagrogalong wrote:
> Sylvia Else<syl...(a)not.here.invalid> wrote:
>> bringyagrogalong wrote:
>>> B J Foster<plagiarist...(a)yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>> bringyagrogalong wrote:
>>>>> Sylvia Else<syl...(a)not.here.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> Noodle wrote:
>>>> ...
>>
>>>>> But quite apart from the stupidity of his argument he is also urging
>>>>> people to break the law.
>>
>>>> Since when was refusing to pay a fine against the law, idiot
>>
>>> Taken to its ultimate conclusion refusing to pay a fine results in
>>> contempt of court and a prison term.
>>
>> Even if that were true, it wouldn't mean that refusing to pay the fine
>> was against the law. It would merely be an example of how contempt of
>> court is.
>>
>> NSW legislation goes into considerable detail about what happens when
>> people don't pay fines. No mention of contempt of court there. I haven't
>> checked, but I expect other states have similar legislation.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> If the court orders that the fine be paid and you still refuse to pay
> it, you are in contempt of court which can result in a prison
> sentence.
>
> Noodle said "Refuse to pay your fines" In fact he said "REFUSE TO PAY
> YOUR FINES!"
>
> If you take his advice that'll be were you end up.


Show us a modern day example of this stooge. Afraid it doesn't work that
way, at least not in civilised states. Fines are treated no differently
to any other debt in most respects. Here in WA they'll take your license
for fine defaulting until you make good, but other than that it's
effectively passed on to a debt collection arm, which has no more power
to jail you than any other debt collector. Regardless of whether the
fine was on the spot or ordered by a magistrate.

But you never were all that good at sticking to the facts.

From: Epsilon on
Hunter wrote:
> On 9/06/2010 9:57 PM, bringyagrogalong wrote:
>> Sylvia Else<syl...(a)not.here.invalid> wrote:
>>> bringyagrogalong wrote:
>>>> B J Foster<plagiarist...(a)yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> bringyagrogalong wrote:
>>>>>> Sylvia Else<syl...(a)not.here.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> Noodle wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>
>>>>>> But quite apart from the stupidity of his argument he is also
>>>>>> urging people to break the law.
>>>
>>>>> Since when was refusing to pay a fine against the law, idiot
>>>
>>>> Taken to its ultimate conclusion refusing to pay a fine results in
>>>> contempt of court and a prison term.
>>>
>>> Even if that were true, it wouldn't mean that refusing to pay the
>>> fine was against the law. It would merely be an example of how
>>> contempt of court is.
>>>
>>> NSW legislation goes into considerable detail about what happens
>>> when people don't pay fines. No mention of contempt of court there.
>>> I haven't checked, but I expect other states have similar
>>> legislation. Sylvia.
>>
>> If the court orders that the fine be paid and you still refuse to pay
>> it, you are in contempt of court which can result in a prison
>> sentence.
>>
>> Noodle said "Refuse to pay your fines" In fact he said "REFUSE TO PAY
>> YOUR FINES!"
>>
>> If you take his advice that'll be were you end up.
>
>
> Show us a modern day example of this stooge. Afraid it doesn't work
> that way, at least not in civilised states. Fines are treated no
> differently to any other debt in most respects. Here in WA they'll
> take your license for fine defaulting until you make good, but other
> than that it's effectively passed on to a debt collection arm, which
> has no more power to jail you than any other debt collector.
> Regardless of whether the fine was on the spot or ordered by a
> magistrate.
> But you never were all that good at sticking to the facts.

The legal situation in WA is clear enough. See
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/wa/consol_act/fpainea1994484/s55d.html .

That is, a public servant who decision cannot be challenged can decide that
a fine-defaulter should go to jail, no ifs-buts-or-maybes. WA is like that.
And the debt is not passed on to a debt collector.

What do you think of those facts, eh?

From: Jason James on

"Hunter" <hunter01(a)iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:879mlrF12vU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> On 9/06/2010 9:57 PM, bringyagrogalong wrote:
>> Sylvia Else<syl...(a)not.here.invalid> wrote:
>>> bringyagrogalong wrote:
>>>> B J Foster<plagiarist...(a)yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> bringyagrogalong wrote:
>>>>>> Sylvia Else<syl...(a)not.here.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> Noodle wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>
>>>>>> But quite apart from the stupidity of his argument he is also urging
>>>>>> people to break the law.
>>>
>>>>> Since when was refusing to pay a fine against the law, idiot
>>>
>>>> Taken to its ultimate conclusion refusing to pay a fine results in
>>>> contempt of court and a prison term.
>>>
>>> Even if that were true, it wouldn't mean that refusing to pay the fine
>>> was against the law. It would merely be an example of how contempt of
>>> court is.
>>>
>>> NSW legislation goes into considerable detail about what happens when
>>> people don't pay fines. No mention of contempt of court there. I haven't
>>> checked, but I expect other states have similar legislation.
>>>
>>> Sylvia.
>>
>> If the court orders that the fine be paid and you still refuse to pay
>> it, you are in contempt of court which can result in a prison
>> sentence.
>>
>> Noodle said "Refuse to pay your fines" In fact he said "REFUSE TO PAY
>> YOUR FINES!"
>>
>> If you take his advice that'll be were you end up.
>
>
> Show us a modern day example of this stooge. Afraid it doesn't work that
> way, at least not in civilised states. Fines are treated no differently to
> any other debt in most respects. Here in WA they'll take your license for
> fine defaulting until you make good, but other than that it's effectively
> passed on to a debt collection arm, which has no more power to jail you
> than any other debt collector. Regardless of whether the fine was on the
> spot or ordered by a magistrate.
>
> But you never were all that good at sticking to the facts.

Liscence revocation is one consequence that I'm aware of. It happened to a
member of my family in NSW about a decade back. They will allow you to
re-apply for your liscence after a period of time, as long as you come to a
paying arragement re your fines, eg an agreed monthly payment scheme..

Jason


From: B J Foster on
bringyagrogalong wrote:
> B J Foster <plagiarist...(a)yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>> bringyagrogalong wrote:
>>> Sylvia Else <syl...(a)not.here.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Noodle wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>> But quite apart from the stupidity of his argument he is also urging
>>> people to break the law.
>> Since when was refusing to pay a fine against the law, idiot
>
> Taken to its ultimate conclusion refusing to pay a fine results in
> contempt of court and a prison term.
>

Idiot, you cannot *be* in contempt of court if you haven't *been* in a court