From: Sylvia Else on 10 Jun 2010 05:15 On 10/06/2010 7:09 PM, bringyagrogalong wrote: > B J Foster<bjfos...(a)yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: >> bringyagrogalong wrote: >>> B J Foster<plagiarist...(a)yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: >>>> bringyagrogalong wrote: >>>>> Sylvia Else<syl...(a)not.here.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> Noodle wrote: >>>> ... >> >>>>> But quite apart from the stupidity of his argument he is also urging >>>>> people to break the law. >>>> >>>> Since when was refusing to pay a fine against the law, idiot >> >>> Taken to its ultimate conclusion refusing to pay a fine results in >>> contempt of court and a prison term. >> >> Idiot, you cannot *be* in contempt of court if you haven't *been* in a court > > I see that you're as dull-wiited as that clown epsilon. > > What part of: Taken to its *ultimate conclusion* refusing to pay a > fine results in contempt of court and a prison term. > I suppose you intended to put "don't you understand" at the end. Anyway, it seems clear enough. But it's also incorrect. The defaulter can in some circumstances end up in prison, but not for contempt. Sylvia.
From: Epsilon on 10 Jun 2010 05:31 Sylvia Else wrote: > On 10/06/2010 7:09 PM, bringyagrogalong wrote: >> B J Foster<bjfos...(a)yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: >>> bringyagrogalong wrote: >>>> B J Foster<plagiarist...(a)yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: >>>>> bringyagrogalong wrote: >>>>>> Sylvia Else<syl...(a)not.here.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> Noodle wrote: >>>>> ... >>> >>>>>> But quite apart from the stupidity of his argument he is also >>>>>> urging people to break the law. >>>>> >>>>> Since when was refusing to pay a fine against the law, idiot >>> >>>> Taken to its ultimate conclusion refusing to pay a fine results in >>>> contempt of court and a prison term. >>> >>> Idiot, you cannot *be* in contempt of court if you haven't *been* >>> in a court >> >> I see that you're as dull-wiited as that clown epsilon. >> >> What part of: Taken to its *ultimate conclusion* refusing to pay a >> fine results in contempt of court and a prison term. >> > > I suppose you intended to put "don't you understand" at the end. > > Anyway, it seems clear enough. > > But it's also incorrect. The defaulter can in some circumstances end > up in prison, but not for contempt. Nor for refusing to pay a fine.
From: Noodle on 10 Jun 2010 20:26 Hello. > Over in WA the last I heard is they take your license and pass the fine > to fine enforcement, which is nothing more than a glorified debt > collection agency. Nothing criminal about it. Correct. Except they don't physically "take" your licence, they just suspend or cancel it in their records. Just tell them you physically lost your licence.
From: Noodle on 10 Jun 2010 20:56 Hello. > Here in WA they'll take your license > for fine defaulting until you make good, but other than that it's > effectively passed on to a debt collection arm, which has no more power > to jail you than any other debt collector. Regardless of whether the > fine was on the spot or ordered by a magistrate. In NSW, the NSW Sheriff (part of NSW Attorney Generals Department) can physically take possession of your car and house to pay off all NSW State debts. It can legally break down doors, and break into cars, to take possession. A normal debt collector cannot.
From: Noodle on 10 Jun 2010 20:57
Hello. > Liscence revocation is one consequence that I'm aware of. It happened to a > member of my family in NSW about a decade back. They will allow you to > re-apply for your liscence after a period of time, as long as you come to a > paying arragement re your fines, eg an agreed monthly payment scheme.. In NSW, you need to make SIX (6) consecutive payments to the NSW SDRO, to get your licence back: http://www.drivingproject.org/forms/rta_sanctions%5B1%5D.pdf |