From: Michael Coburn on
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:57:25 +0000, Brent wrote:

> On 2010-07-15, Larry G <gross.larry(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> so the EPA is really a bunch of enviro wackos and not to be trusted for
>> environmental policy?
>
> In the large picture the EPA serves the political interests of the
> insiders. The environment is just the excuse.

Yet another conspiracy.

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From: Jim Yanik on
Michael Coburn <mikcob(a)verizon.net> wrote in
news:i1q05j229th(a)news3.newsguy.com:

> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:57:25 +0000, Brent wrote:
>
>> On 2010-07-15, Larry G <gross.larry(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> so the EPA is really a bunch of enviro wackos and not to be trusted for
>>> environmental policy?
>>
>> In the large picture the EPA serves the political interests of the
>> insiders. The environment is just the excuse.
>
> Yet another conspiracy.
>


actually,the "Green" movement has been infiltrated by the socialists as the
latest method of advancing their communist policies.This has been going on
since the 1980's.(USSR's anti-nuke efforts)

Note the latest leader of the EPA is a communist-admirer,and appointed by
Comrade Obama.

So,I guess you can say it IS a "conspiracy".
and it goes all the way to the "top".

but I suspect you'll "pooh-pooh" this,typical willful blindness.
I doubt you'll even look into it.

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From: Larry G on
On Jul 16, 12:08 pm, Michael Coburn <mik...(a)verizon.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:57:25 +0000, Brent wrote:
> > On 2010-07-15, Larry G <gross.la...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> so the EPA is really a bunch of enviro wackos and not to be trusted for
> >> environmental policy?
>
> > In the large picture the EPA serves the political interests of the
> > insiders. The environment is just the excuse.
>
> Yet another conspiracy.  

so there are NO Environmental groups in the private sector and NO
parts of the govt that look after the Environment that can be
trusted .... eh?

that's the drift I was getting.

so..whether we are talking about mercury, ozone holes, GW, dioxin, or
even hurricanes... the scientists involved are liberal loonies...
who.. stand to make a lot of money convincing the gullible to do
things to restrict pollution... eh?

From: Brent on
On 2010-07-16, Michael Coburn <mikcob(a)verizon.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:57:25 +0000, Brent wrote:
>
>> On 2010-07-15, Larry G <gross.larry(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> so the EPA is really a bunch of enviro wackos and not to be trusted for
>>> environmental policy?
>>
>> In the large picture the EPA serves the political interests of the
>> insiders. The environment is just the excuse.
>
> Yet another conspiracy.

Conspiracy? I didn't think the way DC works was anything but and hardly
secret. Regulators being from the companies they regulate and going back
to them... the whole BP inside track on regulation and inspection even
made the mainstream news.... oh that's right, they are just
'incompetent' rather than corrupt. LOL.


From: Brent on
On 2010-07-16, Larry G <gross.larry(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 16, 12:08�pm, Michael Coburn <mik...(a)verizon.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:57:25 +0000, Brent wrote:
>> > On 2010-07-15, Larry G <gross.la...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> so the EPA is really a bunch of enviro wackos and not to be trusted for
>> >> environmental policy?
>>
>> > In the large picture the EPA serves the political interests of the
>> > insiders. The environment is just the excuse.
>>
>> Yet another conspiracy. �
>
> so there are NO Environmental groups in the private sector and NO
> parts of the govt that look after the Environment that can be
> trusted .... eh?
>
> that's the drift I was getting.
>
> so..whether we are talking about mercury, ozone holes, GW, dioxin, or
> even hurricanes... the scientists involved are liberal loonies...
> who.. stand to make a lot of money convincing the gullible to do
> things to restrict pollution... eh?

Look at how regulation is done. The method is conceptionally set up such
that it is political. That is those with political power benefit at the
expense of those who do not and it allows for the furthering of the
agendas of various control freaks to shape society as they desire.

When I hear environmental groups demanding a property rights approach to
pollution control (effectively as close to zero pollution seen by
anyone else as we will ever be able to get) and putting their money
where their mouth is by purchasing land and keeping it clean and
development free then I'll believe they care more about the environment
than they do in shaping the way other people should live.

Instead we have global warming the seas will rise we need carbon taxes
Al Gore who emits more CO2 through his activities than some third world
countries by the sound of it and buys a 9 million dollar beach front
home... Actions speak louder than words. The actions routinely point
clearly to restrictions and poverty for the masses, everything for the
rulers.