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From: Nate Nagel on 24 Jul 2010 07:35 On 07/24/2010 07:25 AM, Otto Yamamoto wrote: > On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:03:36 -0400, Dave Head wrote: > >> The Euros are known for their overall much-thinner-than-Americans >> population. > > I'm 'overall much thinner' than most of the population. Why? Because my > job consists of lifting heavy weights throughout most of the day. I walk > a lot. I don't eat a lot of fast food and avoid fried foods in the main. > I probably could be even thinner if I took up an exercise programme at a > gym. I move a lot faster than a lot of people half my age. It's called > 'not having a sedentary lifestyle'. Problem is that jobs that involve physical activity *and* good pay are not always easy to find, and of course, if you have no other skills, if you have physical issues and cannot perform your job anymore your lifestyle comes crashing down. (not pointed at you in particular - I don't know what you do or what you know.) So a lot of people take "desk jobs" for the economic security. That and it's supposed to be over 100 degrees today so I doubt I will be taking my usual Saturday evening bike ride... Now in Europe, walking or biking to work is a lot more common than it is here; for me it is simply not an option, I've been trying to work up to cycling to work but before I reach that fitness level due to recent events it appears that I will be moving even farther away from work to the point where cycling wouldn't be practical simply on a time basis, never mind physical. Houses close to the city are just simply more expensive than I could afford. nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel
From: Dave Head on 24 Jul 2010 07:35 On 24 Jul 2010 11:25:42 GMT, Otto Yamamoto <steve(a)yamamoto.cc> wrote: >On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:03:36 -0400, Dave Head wrote: > >> The Euros are known for their overall much-thinner-than-Americans >> population. > >I'm 'overall much thinner' than most of the population. Why? Because my >job consists of lifting heavy weights throughout most of the day. I walk >a lot. I don't eat a lot of fast food and avoid fried foods in the main. >I probably could be even thinner if I took up an exercise programme at a >gym. I move a lot faster than a lot of people half my age. It's called >'not having a sedentary lifestyle'. And why do you suppose the Euros are thin? Walking / biking all over the place 'cuz they don't have the $$$ for their $10/gal gas, walking because their cities are more compact 'cuz they don't have the $$$ to be commuting from miles out in the country, etc. I think that's mostly it. That's what the envirowackos are attempting to perpetrate on this country, but we're ALREADY spread out into the country, and HAVE to drive, and so $10/gal gas would simply bankrupt the USA, since the people couldn't drive, and their property value anywhere but the center of the city would go to practically $0.
From: Otto Yamamoto on 24 Jul 2010 08:13 On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:35:01 -0400, Nate Nagel wrote: > Now in Europe, walking or biking to work is a lot more common than it is > here; for me it is simply not an option, I've been trying to work up to > cycling to work but before I reach that fitness level due to recent > events it appears that I will be moving even farther away from work to > the point where cycling wouldn't be practical simply on a time basis, > never mind physical. Houses close to the city are just simply more > expensive than I could afford. Just goes to show you can't apply the European context to American situations. The converse is also true(something more Americans might want to consider). You have to do what you have to do to maintain what you consider an optimal lifestyle for yourself and your family. Your standards likely differ from mine as to what this entails. -- Otto Yamamoto
From: Nate Nagel on 24 Jul 2010 08:18 On 07/24/2010 08:13 AM, Otto Yamamoto wrote: > On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:35:01 -0400, Nate Nagel wrote: > >> Now in Europe, walking or biking to work is a lot more common than it is >> here; for me it is simply not an option, I've been trying to work up to >> cycling to work but before I reach that fitness level due to recent >> events it appears that I will be moving even farther away from work to >> the point where cycling wouldn't be practical simply on a time basis, >> never mind physical. Houses close to the city are just simply more >> expensive than I could afford. > > Just goes to show you can't apply the European context to American > situations. The converse is also true(something more Americans might want > to consider). You have to do what you have to do to maintain what you > consider an optimal lifestyle for yourself and your family. Your > standards likely differ from mine as to what this entails. > Right now, for me, it's simply "financial security." I will do what it takes to ensure that there is enough money in the bank to tide me, and whoever I choose to involve in my life (sadly, the latter is a bit in question at the moment, whereas a couple weeks ago I thought that it was all figured out) through rough times/unemployment/whatever for a reasonable amount of time. Something that I didn't really have up until recently, and now that I have it, I've become used to that comforting feeling of realizing that I can handle pretty much anything. (now, being forced to make life changes so soon after that, that kinda hurts, but that's another discussion not relevant to the froup.) nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel
From: Otto Yamamoto on 24 Jul 2010 08:25
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:35:16 -0400, Dave Head wrote: > On 24 Jul 2010 11:25:42 GMT, Otto Yamamoto <steve(a)yamamoto.cc> wrote: > >>On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:03:36 -0400, Dave Head wrote: >> >>> The Euros are known for their overall much-thinner-than-Americans >>> population. >> >>I'm 'overall much thinner' than most of the population. Why? Because my >>job consists of lifting heavy weights throughout most of the day. I walk >>a lot. I don't eat a lot of fast food and avoid fried foods in the main. >>I probably could be even thinner if I took up an exercise programme at a >>gym. I move a lot faster than a lot of people half my age. It's called >>'not having a sedentary lifestyle'. > > And why do you suppose the Euros are thin? Walking / biking all over > the place 'cuz they don't have the $$$ for their $10/gal gas, walking > because their cities are more compact 'cuz they don't have the $$$ to be > commuting from miles out in the country, etc. I think that's mostly it. I don't see where the above is necessarily adverse. Or even particularly true. There's more to it than that. There are food and lifestyle choices involved as well. > That's what the envirowackos are attempting to perpetrate on this > country, but we're ALREADY spread out into the country, and HAVE to > drive, and so $10/gal gas would simply bankrupt the USA, since the > people couldn't drive, and their property value anywhere but the center > of the city would go to practically $0. Ooo, yr scaring me. You saying that the people of this country would fall apart if this ever came to pass? Maybe you would, personally, I'd be too busy doing what I could to adapt. I'd be banding up with my homies and taking the necessary steps to adapt and survive. You have a severe case of Advanced Entitlement Syndrome. I prescribe a course of ManTheFuckUpitol. -- Otto Yamamoto |