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From: Brent on 2 Aug 2010 23:07 On 2010-08-03, Dave Head <rally2xs(a)att.net> wrote: > On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 02:32:44 +0000 (UTC), Brent ><tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>On 2010-08-03, Dave Head <rally2xs(a)att.net> wrote: >>> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 08:54:22 -0500, "US 71" <us71(a)cox.net> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>"Brent" <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote >>>> >>>>> >>>>> You're back to stupid and absurd strawmen. Real defense, in defense of >>>>> real enemies is sadly needed to protect property. However we are not >>>>> discussing defense, we are discussing government pissing away treasure >>>>> in foriegn wars such that the ruling class can play their real life game >>>>> of Risk at our expense. >>>>> >>>> >>>>But how much? As much as the next 20 countries combined? Eisenhower warned >>>>about the defense industry taking over the country. >>> >>> We're the world's default police. We have bases all over the world. >>> That's expensive. Don't want to do it? Fine, vacate everywhere. >>> SOMEBODY ELSE will do it, tho, as it is a job needing done. It'd >>> probably be the Chinese. Izzat what you want? >> >>The chinese aren't that stupid. Neither their leaders or the people they >>rule over. > > There's nothing stupid about positioning yourself to dominate the > world. That's what they'd do. What we're doing is preventing what > they'd be doing. We quit that field, and they'd do it. The chinese do it the smart way, through business. Through making things. The US federal government does it the stupid, expensive, and self destructive way. >>Americans however are so stupid they believe that paying the bills in >>blood and treasure for a bunch of insiders, control freaks, and bored >>wealthy people who need to play a game of risk on the globe is in their >>best interest. > You're really "out there." How many anti-war protesters do you see? > Cindy Sheehan, and who else? See, nobody cares - most agree with it. > Might as well save your breath. No, you're really ignorant and clearly are too lazy to find you've been lied to. What's the deficit this year alone? How much money printing is the fed doing to cover what nobody is willing to loan? The US federal government is destroying our economic future for the benefit of insiders. They move their wealth off shore and then take off themselves as we are left to live in country with a hopelessly broken economy. That is if they don't start world war three as a stimulus program. Poverty and death for future generations is the current path. Look at the debt, look at the obligations. well over a hundred trillion dollars and GROWING at an astounding rate. Keep being stupid. China will dominate the world, through peaceful economic means, and the US will be broke and broken. Or maybe the war mongers can fix it by pressing the red buttons and destroying the world... that will fix it all..
From: Dave Head on 2 Aug 2010 23:23 On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 03:07:34 +0000 (UTC), Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >On 2010-08-03, Dave Head <rally2xs(a)att.net> wrote: >> On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 02:32:44 +0000 (UTC), Brent >><tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>On 2010-08-03, Dave Head <rally2xs(a)att.net> wrote: >>>> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 08:54:22 -0500, "US 71" <us71(a)cox.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>"Brent" <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You're back to stupid and absurd strawmen. Real defense, in defense of >>>>>> real enemies is sadly needed to protect property. However we are not >>>>>> discussing defense, we are discussing government pissing away treasure >>>>>> in foriegn wars such that the ruling class can play their real life game >>>>>> of Risk at our expense. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>But how much? As much as the next 20 countries combined? Eisenhower warned >>>>>about the defense industry taking over the country. >>>> >>>> We're the world's default police. We have bases all over the world. >>>> That's expensive. Don't want to do it? Fine, vacate everywhere. >>>> SOMEBODY ELSE will do it, tho, as it is a job needing done. It'd >>>> probably be the Chinese. Izzat what you want? >>> >>>The chinese aren't that stupid. Neither their leaders or the people they >>>rule over. >> >> There's nothing stupid about positioning yourself to dominate the >> world. That's what they'd do. What we're doing is preventing what >> they'd be doing. We quit that field, and they'd do it. > >The chinese do it the smart way, through business. Through making >things. The US federal government does it the stupid, expensive, and >self destructive way. Doesn't matter a fig when there's a US Military base to launch aircraft with nuclear weapons in your part of the world. >>>Americans however are so stupid they believe that paying the bills in >>>blood and treasure for a bunch of insiders, control freaks, and bored >>>wealthy people who need to play a game of risk on the globe is in their >>>best interest. > >> You're really "out there." How many anti-war protesters do you see? >> Cindy Sheehan, and who else? See, nobody cares - most agree with it. >> Might as well save your breath. > >No, you're really ignorant and clearly are too lazy to find you've been >lied to. What's the deficit this year alone? How much money printing is >the fed doing to cover what nobody is willing to loan? The US federal >government is destroying our economic future for the benefit of >insiders. They move their wealth off shore and then take off themselves >as we are left to live in country with a hopelessly broken economy. >That is if they don't start world war three as a stimulus program. Doesn't have a thing to do with the military or the wars. What it has to do with is the social program spending - Medicare & Social Security. They hare hideously expensive. Obamacare, if not repealed, is the final nails in the coffin. This country will not survive it. >Poverty and death for future generations is the current path. Yep. Gonna starve to death in the coming economic collapse brought about by the rampant socialism. >Look at >the debt, look at the obligations. well over a hundred trillion dollars >and GROWING at an astounding rate. Keep being stupid. China will >dominate the world, through peaceful economic means, and the US will be >broke and broken. Or maybe the war mongers can fix it by pressing the >red buttons and destroying the world... that will fix it all.. Doesn't have anything to do with the wars. Its too much spending and a government that discourages domestic business. Hell, the EPA is trying to say that farmers can't make any dust now. http://www.news9.com/Global/story.asp?S=12899662 The EPA is being used to ruin the country. It is an instrument of the communists and socialists that support it and indeed live inside it. They don't want farming now, they didn't want the fire booms to burn off the oil, and they didn't want BP to spread dispersants for the oil, even tho the oil is more toxic than the dispersants. The EPA is being used to ruin the country by its leftist enemies.
From: Brent on 3 Aug 2010 02:14 On 2010-08-03, Dave Head <rally2xs(a)att.net> wrote: > On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 03:07:34 +0000 (UTC), Brent ><tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>On 2010-08-03, Dave Head <rally2xs(a)att.net> wrote: >>> On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 02:32:44 +0000 (UTC), Brent >>><tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On 2010-08-03, Dave Head <rally2xs(a)att.net> wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 08:54:22 -0500, "US 71" <us71(a)cox.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>"Brent" <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You're back to stupid and absurd strawmen. Real defense, in defense of >>>>>>> real enemies is sadly needed to protect property. However we are not >>>>>>> discussing defense, we are discussing government pissing away treasure >>>>>>> in foriegn wars such that the ruling class can play their real life game >>>>>>> of Risk at our expense. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>But how much? As much as the next 20 countries combined? Eisenhower warned >>>>>>about the defense industry taking over the country. >>>>> >>>>> We're the world's default police. We have bases all over the world. >>>>> That's expensive. Don't want to do it? Fine, vacate everywhere. >>>>> SOMEBODY ELSE will do it, tho, as it is a job needing done. It'd >>>>> probably be the Chinese. Izzat what you want? >>>> >>>>The chinese aren't that stupid. Neither their leaders or the people they >>>>rule over. >>> >>> There's nothing stupid about positioning yourself to dominate the >>> world. That's what they'd do. What we're doing is preventing what >>> they'd be doing. We quit that field, and they'd do it. >> >>The chinese do it the smart way, through business. Through making >>things. The US federal government does it the stupid, expensive, and >>self destructive way. > > Doesn't matter a fig when there's a US Military base to launch > aircraft with nuclear weapons in your part of the world. So what you're saying is that the US federal government is the greatest threat to human life in the world. Great. An evil empire that rules using fear and terror. You become what you hate. Congradulations. You've endorsed everything the USA was supposedly better than. You want to be a world wide bully. How did that work out for the previous empires? Name one that still exists. None. >>>>Americans however are so stupid they believe that paying the bills in >>>>blood and treasure for a bunch of insiders, control freaks, and bored >>>>wealthy people who need to play a game of risk on the globe is in their >>>>best interest. >>> You're really "out there." How many anti-war protesters do you see? >>> Cindy Sheehan, and who else? See, nobody cares - most agree with it. >>> Might as well save your breath. >>No, you're really ignorant and clearly are too lazy to find you've been >>lied to. What's the deficit this year alone? How much money printing is >>the fed doing to cover what nobody is willing to loan? The US federal >>government is destroying our economic future for the benefit of >>insiders. They move their wealth off shore and then take off themselves >>as we are left to live in country with a hopelessly broken economy. >>That is if they don't start world war three as a stimulus program. > Doesn't have a thing to do with the military or the wars. What it has > to do with is the social program spending - Medicare & Social > Security. They hare hideously expensive. Obamacare, if not repealed, > is the final nails in the coffin. This country will not survive it. It's all hideously expensive including the war spending. >>Poverty and death for future generations is the current path. > Yep. Gonna starve to death in the coming economic collapse brought > about by the rampant socialism. Guns and butter. Can't have one without the other. That's how empire works. That's why all empires fail, it gets too expensive. It consumes productive capacity while destroying it at the same time. >>Look at >>the debt, look at the obligations. well over a hundred trillion dollars >>and GROWING at an astounding rate. Keep being stupid. China will >>dominate the world, through peaceful economic means, and the US will be >>broke and broken. Or maybe the war mongers can fix it by pressing the >>red buttons and destroying the world... that will fix it all.. > Doesn't have anything to do with the wars. Its too much spending and > a government that discourages domestic business. Hell, the EPA is > trying to say that farmers can't make any dust now. Ok, I'm out again. Keep thinking that wars are cheap and you can keep wars going on forever without the social spending to placate the masses. Guns and butter, bread and circuses. It all goes together. Either you end it all or it all keeps going. > http://www.news9.com/Global/story.asp?S=12899662 > > The EPA is being used to ruin the country. It is an instrument of the > communists and socialists that support it and indeed live inside it. > They don't want farming now, they didn't want the fire booms to burn > off the oil, and they didn't want BP to spread dispersants for the > oil, even tho the oil is more toxic than the dispersants. The EPA is > being used to ruin the country by its leftist enemies. It's called fascism. Figure it out already. BP is favored, family farmers are not.
From: Dave Head on 3 Aug 2010 03:45 On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 06:14:34 +0000 (UTC), Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >So what you're saying is that the US federal government is the greatest >threat to human life in the world. Great. An evil empire that rules >using fear and terror. You become what you hate. Congradulations. You've >endorsed everything the USA was supposedly better than. > >You want to be a world wide bully. How did that work out for the >previous empires? Name one that still exists. None. No, no. Pay attention. _WE_ are the good guys. We are doing what we're doing to keep the bad guys from dominating the world. >> Yep. Gonna starve to death in the coming economic collapse brought >> about by the rampant socialism. > >Guns and butter. Can't have one without the other. That's how empire >works. That's why all empires fail, it gets too expensive. It consumes >productive capacity while destroying it at the same time. It is going to fail because the income tax is making the productive capacity too expensive, so it leaves the USA. >> Doesn't have anything to do with the wars. Its too much spending and >> a government that discourages domestic business. Hell, the EPA is >> trying to say that farmers can't make any dust now. > >Ok, I'm out again. Keep thinking that wars are cheap and you can keep >wars going on forever without the social spending to placate the masses. >Guns and butter, bread and circuses. It all goes together. Either you >end it all or it all keeps going. > >> http://www.news9.com/Global/story.asp?S=12899662 >> >> The EPA is being used to ruin the country. It is an instrument of the >> communists and socialists that support it and indeed live inside it. >> They don't want farming now, they didn't want the fire booms to burn >> off the oil, and they didn't want BP to spread dispersants for the >> oil, even tho the oil is more toxic than the dispersants. The EPA is >> being used to ruin the country by its leftist enemies. > >It's called fascism. Figure it out already. BP is favored, family >farmers are not. Its called cloward Piven. The current socailist president is executing it and will ruin the country with it.
From: Brent on 3 Aug 2010 09:44
On 2010-08-03, Dave Head <rally2xs(a)att.net> wrote: > On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 06:14:34 +0000 (UTC), Brent ><tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>So what you're saying is that the US federal government is the greatest >>threat to human life in the world. Great. An evil empire that rules >>using fear and terror. You become what you hate. Congradulations. You've >>endorsed everything the USA was supposedly better than. >> >>You want to be a world wide bully. How did that work out for the >>previous empires? Name one that still exists. None. > > No, no. Pay attention. _WE_ are the good guys. We are doing what > we're doing to keep the bad guys from dominating the world. HAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAAHA! The rulers of the US of A are not fundamentally and magically better people than those of previous empires. They are greedy self interested power hungry control freaks just like those of every other empire in human history. And the people in the homeland of those empires generally thought they were the good guys too. Why? Their rulers told them that. It is very difficult to bring people to war thinking they are the bad guys so rulers convince the masses they are the good guys. There are various tricks to convince people into carrying out occupations, torture, invasions, etc. Our rulers use modern variations of scams that have been run for centuries or even thousands of years. Although the bringing democracy to the world bit is getting kind of old. Wilson started that one. > It is going to fail because the income tax is making the productive > capacity too expensive, so it leaves the USA. To pay for guns and butter. |