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From: bod on 8 Jun 2010 12:07 Dave Plowman wrote: > In article <876uqsFc8rU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > >> Many moons ago, when I worked in Bloomsbury and unloading tools etc, >> the traffic warden told me, that as long as I had the tailgate up or >> the rear van doors open, he'd leave me alone, as long as I didn't take >> the mickey with the lenght of time, no more than 10 minutes ish. > > Tends to be different now with privatized enforcement amd them on > commission. ;-) > > Heheh! That wouldn't surprise me. Bod
From: GT on 8 Jun 2010 14:33 "Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:876u8tFi80U19(a)mid.individual.net... > "GT" <a(a)b.c> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > >>>> Doesn't a single yellow line allow a set period of time (5 minutes?) >>>> to load and unload goods or passengers. I don't have time to confirm >>>> this, but the rule would make it legal for taxis, vans or even >>>> cyclists to stop on a single yellow for a short time. > >>> Yep. For the van driver to unload and deliver the goods, and for the >>> taxi driver to let the self-unloading cargo unload itself. >>> >>> The van driver needs to disembark and leave the vehicle to deliver. The >>> taxi driver does not. > >> Hmm - I see the argument, but not convinced either way about the >> technicalities. It might well be that the difference between 'stopped' >> and 'parked' is determined by whether the driver gets out of the drivers >> seat or not, but I think the law allows drivers to 'park' on single >> yellow lines for the a given time period for the purposes of >> loading/unloading cargo, passengers or perhaps bowels, if we deem their >> contents to be cargo!! > > Cardboard boxes cannot unload themselves, unlike taxi passengers. > "Unloading" your bladder or bowels doesn't count as unloading, just as > stopping to buy a sandwich or a coffee does not count as loading. Let me guess - one has to use the disabled or toddler spaces for that?!!
From: Dave Plowman on 8 Jun 2010 18:57 In article <8776taFi80U23(a)mid.individual.net>, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > It entirely depends on the local regs whether loading and unloading is > > allowed at a particular time. > Very true. > > Or perhaps you think delivery drivers never get parking tickets? > Plus, of course, red routes. The local high street is a red route - but has loads of parking bays for short term parking outside rush hour. Plenty of similar single yellow line roads don't. > And taxi drivers making unattended parcel > rather than human deliveries - acting as a courier, in effect. Yup. > But - speaking as a generality - if a taxi and a transit were both > parked next to each other, unattended, for a similar amount of time, > the driver of the taxi is massively less likely to be "unloading" > legitimately than the driver of the transit. Yup again. However, the more I think about it, I'd have no real trouble parking up legally to go to the loo anywhere I can think of. Would likely cost, though. What cab drivers appear to want is to park free outside any loo regardless of any congestion it might cause. -- *Proofread carefully to see if you any words out or mispeld something * Dave Plowman dave(a)davesound.co.uk London SW 12
From: JNugent on 8 Jun 2010 19:39 Dave Plowman wrote: > In article <876dlsF3pqU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > JNugent <JN(a)nonexistentaddress.com> wrote: >>> And your solution would be to let them park anywhere they wanted to? >>> Why restrict this to taxis? > >> I don't think they're asking to be allowed to park outside Harrod's or >> Fortnum's whilst doing their shopping. I think they are asking for some >> slack to be cut whilst the driver is using a public toilet. > > I'll ask again. Why should only a cab driver be given this privilege? Do > you consider them somehow more important than others who make a living by > driving, like say delivery van drivers? Or indeed the general public? > >> Is there something intrinsically wrong with that approach? > > Very much so. It would be very open to abuse. > >> Or does it fail to penalise taxi-drivers for nothing in particular as >> severely as you would prefer? > > As I thought. You seem to think parking restrictions should only apply to > some. Here's some news: they *do* only apply to some. Do you ever see bus being given a ticket? Or a police car? Or an ambulance? Or a council refuse lorry?
From: JNugent on 8 Jun 2010 19:39
Dave Plowman wrote: > In article <8776taFi80U23(a)mid.individual.net>, > Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> It entirely depends on the local regs whether loading and unloading is >>> allowed at a particular time. > >> Very true. > >>> Or perhaps you think delivery drivers never get parking tickets? > >> Plus, of course, red routes. > > The local high street is a red route - but has loads of parking bays for > short term parking outside rush hour. Plenty of similar single yellow line > roads don't. > >> And taxi drivers making unattended parcel >> rather than human deliveries - acting as a courier, in effect. > > Yup. > >> But - speaking as a generality - if a taxi and a transit were both >> parked next to each other, unattended, for a similar amount of time, >> the driver of the taxi is massively less likely to be "unloading" >> legitimately than the driver of the transit. > > Yup again. > > However, the more I think about it, I'd have no real trouble parking up > legally to go to the loo anywhere I can think of. Would likely cost, > though. What cab drivers appear to want is to park free outside any loo > regardless of any congestion it might cause. Would the payment of a couple of quid reduce the congestion? |