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From: Doug on 3 Jun 2010 02:20 On 2 June, 10:07, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were > saying: > > > Happening this afternoon and mentioned on BBC London TV. > > > So how, in terms of effect, does this differ from Critical Mass? > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/10211958.stm > > Apart from them having announced the route they'll follow, and having > liased with the police, you mean? > They were not a customarily held procession in law like London CM. That is why a route and liaising was required. The main point of course was that those taxi drivers, and many other demos and processions which occur in London, cause traffic hold-ups, just like CM, but are seldom lambasted here as much as CM. So, it would appear that the taxi drivers were empowered by police present to go through red lights to ensure the cohesiveness of their demo, as CM used to do legally when it had a police presence. As for the route, that was a bone of contention between CM and the police until the Law Lords finally determined the police were in the wrong and the cops stopped attending CM. Of course, because CM has no organisers there was nobody to liaise with police anyway. You see how inflexible and bad the traffic laws can be, particularly when applied to cyclists? I suppose I can take some solace from the fact shown here that taxi drivers are as much detested by motorists as they are by CM riders. The only difference being that taxi drivers ram cyclists, because they can, but not motorists who are much better protected, both physically and in law. -- Critical Mass London http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk "Get out of my way you f*ing cyclist"
From: Doug on 3 Jun 2010 02:29 On 2 June, 17:30, Squashme <squas...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 2 June, 13:28, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > "Zimmy" <z...(a)y.x> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > > > > But its the same problem for all other drivers who need the toilet. > > > Apart, of course, from the subtle detail that very few other drivers just > > drive around town all day without ever actually arriving at anywhere or > > knowing where they could be off to next. > > I thought that was what most of you did, most of the time. Learn > something new every day here. > Well yes, most motorists on a Saturday who clog the roads during their retail therapy sessions, but others are too busy and hurried on other days dashing from A to B to stop to pee and pity the poor cyclist who happens to get in their way. Actually, come to think of it, its just as bad for cyclists on a Saturday because the motorists are more indecisive then and you never know when or where they might drive straight at you menacingly. -- Critical Mass London http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk "Get out of my way you f*ing cyclist"
From: Brimstone on 3 Jun 2010 04:28 "Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message news:f3a3311c-4605-4616-a470-ff06000be104(a)z17g2000vbd.googlegroups.com... > Well yes, most motorists on a Saturday who clog the roads during their > retail therapy sessions, but others are too busy and hurried on other > days dashing from A to B to stop to pee and pity the poor cyclist who > happens to get in their way. Actually, come to think of it, its just > as bad for cyclists on a Saturday because the motorists are more > indecisive then and you never know when or where they might drive > straight at you menacingly. > Just for a change Doug, I can agree with you regarding weekend drivers.
From: Brimstone on 3 Jun 2010 04:32 "Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message news:85982a5d-30b5-4251-bf49-facf173a00a4(a)z33g2000vbb.googlegroups.com... > On 2 June, 10:07, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were >> saying: >> >> > Happening this afternoon and mentioned on BBC London TV. >> >> > So how, in terms of effect, does this differ from Critical Mass? >> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/10211958.stm >> >> Apart from them having announced the route they'll follow, and having >> liased with the police, you mean? >> > They were not a customarily held procession in law like London CM. The only reason that CM became "a customarily held procession" is that the organisers gave two fingers to everyone else in London and the authorities were too weak to stop it in its tracks. Don't bother with the bollocks about there being nor organisers, because someone must have raised the idea at the outset and suggested the meeting place. It's just a shame that the police didn't get a grip of them then and nip it in the bud.
From: bod on 3 Jun 2010 04:34
Brimstone wrote: > "Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message > news:f3a3311c-4605-4616-a470-ff06000be104(a)z17g2000vbd.googlegroups.com... > >> Well yes, most motorists on a Saturday who clog the roads during their >> retail therapy sessions, but others are too busy and hurried on other >> days dashing from A to B to stop to pee and pity the poor cyclist who >> happens to get in their way. Actually, come to think of it, its just >> as bad for cyclists on a Saturday because the motorists are more >> indecisive then and you never know when or where they might drive >> straight at you menacingly. >> > Just for a change Doug, I can agree with you regarding weekend drivers. > > Wow! I bet that gave Doug an erection. :) Bod |