From: Orval Fairbairn on
In article <au66f5to1vi0bk7118a8aj5co7p8u8kjta(a)4ax.com>,
Clark F Morris <cfmpublic(a)ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:11:06 -0400, Orval Fairbairn
> <o_r_fairbairn(a)earth_link.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <61p5f5pvqc5kjup6srt76gossfmt9h81m9(a)4ax.com>,
> > Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Last time on rec.autos.driving, Brent
> >> <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> said:
> >>
> >> >On 2009-11-05, Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> Last time on rec.autos.driving, Brent
> >> >><tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> said:
> >> >>
> >> >>>On 2009-11-04, Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>Yeah, because transit is supported by all forms of taxation, not just
> >> >>>>>taxes aimed at transportation.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> And you think roads are not?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>I've been over this already.
> >> >>
> >> >> So have I. See the first post this this thread, which clearly shows
> >> >> that the same is true for roads.
> >> >
> >> >It doesn't show much of anything really. The 'non-transportation' taxes
> >> >I pay that go to transit, go almost entirely to transit that is rather
> >> >distant from me
> >>
> >> "Proximity to Brent" is irrelevant. The fact remains, roads are
> >> supported by all forms of taxation, just like transit is. In some
> >> cases (Orange County Measure M) the same tax supports both.
> >>
> >> QED.
> >
> >... but roads are far more useful than transit -- anybody can use them;
> >they are compatible with the equipment that uses other roads; they have
> >direct access on a 24/7 schedule; their use doesn't depend on somebody
> >else's schedule.
>
> Try walking, bicycling or using a horse and buggy on a freeway
> (actually there are some where you can but not many). Try driving a
> car if you're blind. Transit isn't everything but for many it is
> useful.

It would be far cheaper for the government to pay for taxi service for
those individuals than to build huge mass-transit systems.

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From: rshersh on

>
> It would be far cheaper for the government to pay for taxi service for
> those individuals than to build huge mass-transit systems.
>
> -



oh, really

5.5 million a DAY use NYC transit

Look at the problems with the Phila transit strike

do you really think taxis can handle millions of rides?

From: rshersh on

>
> ... but roads are far more useful than transit -- anybody can use them;
> they are compatible with the equipment that uses other roads; they have
> direct access on a 24/7 schedule; their use doesn't depend on somebody
> else's schedule.
>
> --

and they require a very heavy subsidy

those overloaded trucks do tremendous damage

From: Scott M. Kozel on
Bernd Felsche <berfel(a)innovative.iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
> "Scott M. Kozel" <kozelsm(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> 99% of the public road mileage is non-limited-access.
>
> Source of stats? And how are the 99% measured?

Centerline miles. In the U.S. there are over 4 million miles of public
roads, and about 44 thousand miles of Interstate highways.

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From: Jim Yanik on
"Scott M. Kozel" <kozelsm(a)comcast.net> wrote in
news:hcvvok$tf1$1(a)news.eternal-september.org:

> Clark F Morris <cfmpublic(a)ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Orval Fairbairn <o_r_fairbairn(a)earth_link.net> wrote:
>>
>>> ... but roads are far more useful than transit -- anybody can use
>>> them; they are compatible with the equipment that uses other roads;
>>> they have direct access on a 24/7 schedule; their use doesn't depend
>>> on somebody else's schedule.
>>
>> Try walking, bicycling or using a horse and buggy on a freeway
>> (actually there are some where you can but not many).
>
> 99% of the public road mileage is non-limited-access.
>
>> Try driving a car if you're blind.
>
> You don't have to drive a car to travel in it.
>
>> Transit isn't everything but for many it is useful.
>
> Roads carry transit buses, car pools and van pools.
>

and the food you eat,your medicines.

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