From: Mike G on

"Dave Plowman" <dave(a)> wrote in message
> In article <hv0s5c$4fl$1(a)>,
> Silk <me(a)> wrote:
>> On 12/06/2010 11:26, Dave Plowman wrote:
>> > no sunroof as it has climate control.
>> That's not the reason. It's because it didn't have one fitted at the
>> factory.
> Expert on BMW specs, are you? In the UK a sunroof was only offered on non
> climate control E39s - at least at first.

The one I had with a s/roof and climate control was a '98. on a 'R' plate

From: Ed Chilada on
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:29:08 +0100, Dave Plowman
<dave(a)> wrote:

>Ah - right. Forgot some of the police spec ones had manual steering. I've
>never seen a privately bought one without power - including the 2000.
>I had a Montego without power steering which was a pain at very low speeds
>- I'd imagine the SD1 near unmanageable. But you can hardly blame the car
>for those who specify it being wankers...

Well you can, if the car was available to buy in the first place with
a spec that made it "near unmanageable".

From: Mr Pounder on

"Harry Bloomfield" <harry.m1byt(a)> wrote in message
>I said I would post my findings after owning it for a while, so here
> It is a late 2004 Rover 75 Mk II Contemporary SE CDTi (rather than the
> Connoisseur SE I originally suggested) in a metallic black colour, with a
> bit more mileage under its belt than I really intended (90K), but my
> opinion from the feel of it is that they are mostly motorway miles. It has
> every conceivable option already fitted. 17" wide low profiles, sports
> setup, Satnav/TV, electric everything, power folds, all leather and a
> manual box, Traffic Master, instrument pack, Xenon's.
> All it lacked was a tow bar + electrics, which I fitted the first weekend
> and it was slightly over due a full service/inspection, prior to which it
> had FSH and a fresh MOT.
> Over the past couple of weeks I have been working my way gradually around
> the car, finding and sorting out the few minor problems I could find and
> doing the service / inspection and finally running the diagnostics - which
> indicated no faults at all recorded or current.
> The car had by far the least number of problems of any vehicle I have ever
> bought second hand, yet by a fair margin, with all of its built-in toys,
> is the most complex one.
> My only complaints are that I don't like the way the memory seats operate,
> its FWD and it lacks a 'global close' for the windows/sunroof. If you
> press a memory button whilst on the road, it does a shuffle to the new set
> position, rather than taking the quick short route to the new position
> like my old car did and you have to manually close all of the windows. The
> dash instruments are also of rather an eccentric retro look styling and
> the clutch pedal is heavy.
> The paint work is just a tad below being immaculate, I found no sign of
> any rust anywhere in it including the underside. If you asked me how old
> it were, from my inspection I would say a matter of months, rather than
> years, it also drives the like new. It is in much better condition and
> feels newer than my 18 month old works hack.
> I sorted out one suspension level sensor (for the xenon's) which had been
> pulled from its ball joint, an handbrake lever with excess travel and a
> rather odd case of a loose bolt each on two small suspension sub-frame
> braces. One bolt was hanging by its last thread and I suspect these were
> not tightened correctly at the factory.
> It has an annoying twanging front O/S suspension spring - which I have
> still to resolve.
> I have so far clocked around 500 miles in it, between working on it. On
> the road, it is more than capable of making good fast progress and its
> handling is good if a little soft particularly at the rear. It feels a
> little cramped inside, when compared to my old motor - which was almost an
> identical overall size, if a bit faster and a little more powerful.
> Interior noise wise it is about the same, but a little quieter on noisy
> road surfaces. Despite continuously swapping on a daily basis from manual
> to auto, the Rover feels so like my old auto, I'm tending to forget I need
> to manually change gear. The car oozes quality of build.
> Am I happy with it - absolutely. It handles well, is extremely
> comfortable, it is far from slow and it is between 2/3 and half the fuel
> cost to run as my 3L petrol. This was the first 75 (or any car) I looked
> at in the flesh this time around and I agreed to buy it after just a ten
> minute run in it - with not much clue about its true condition. I'm a
> terrible car buyer and I hate buying them. I'm good at finding and fixing
> problems, but it takes me a good couple of weeks of effort to really judge
> the condition of car. This car I now know is spot on, which straight away
> doubles its value to me.
> The 75 has a very active web forum inhabited by some very knowledgeable
> enthusiasts and parts seem not to be a problem.

You actually bought a 6 year old Rover?
We all make mistakes.

Mr Pounder
> --
> Regards,
> Harry (M1BYT) (L)

From: Harry Bloomfield on
Mr Pounder formulated the question :

> You actually bought a 6 year old Rover?
> We all make mistakes.
> Mr Pounder

What mistake did I make - it is near immaculate, has all of the toys
available, drives perfectly and feels luxurious?

If two weeks after I bought it, having gone all around and under it,
plus doing a few miles, I remain happy with it - I do not see myself as
having made a mistake.

Harry (M1BYT) (L)

From: Mr Pounder on

"Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)> wrote in message
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:45:17 +0100, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
>> Am I happy with it - absolutely. It handles well, is extremely
>> comfortable,
> A freind of mine is on his second one and very happy.
> --
> Chelses Tractor Man
> Gone Beyond the Ultimate Driving Machine

I will buy Jap until the day they take my licence off me.

Mr Pounder