From: Clocky on 18 Jul 2010 07:24
Matt Richards wrote:
> On 18/07/2010 4:01 PM, Clocky wrote:
>> Telstra are now providing the backbone, the deal has been done.
> Lots of companies will be providing it. Telstra will be providing
> access to their ducting, which will help a lot.
> Nextgen are currently building fibre backhaul from Brisbane to Darwin,
> and north from Perth. So it isn't just Telstra.
Yeah that's true but it's a complete turnaround from what they planned to do
earlier with regards to Telstra's involvement.
From: Kev on 18 Jul 2010 15:48
> "PhilD"<replytonewsgrouponly(a)aussient.com.au> wrote in message
>> They aren't refugees if they have already passed through safe countries,
>> multiple times, then choose to pay people smugglers to get here by boats.
>> Then within phone range of Australia call "000" to get help and before
>> are collected by our defence force taxi service they have destroyed all
>> their documentation and on occasions sabotaged their boat.
> I think this is a very crucial point most "pro" refugee supporters seem to
> ignore. You give up your status as a bona fide refugee the moment you
> by-pass the nearest safe country.
> 100% of the people who enter Australia as "refugees" are doing so illegally,
> and are nothing more that queue jumpers.
I take it you mean those that enter Australia on their own
Plenty of Sudanese and other Africans arriving here. but bought in by
From: Noddy on 18 Jul 2010 17:30
"Kev" <kevcat(a)optunet.com.au> wrote in message
> I take it you mean those that enter Australia on their own
I mean all of them.
Australia has no obligation to take *any* "refugees" except those from
countries that are our immediate neighbours.
> Plenty of Sudanese and other Africans arriving here. but bought in by the
The government does lots of things that make sense only to them.
From: John_H on 18 Jul 2010 18:57
>If you got called up for national service during the Vietnam War you had to
>go into the army, but you had to volunteer to serve overseas and everyone
>who went to Vietnam elected to go. I'm sure there were some who were
>pressured into going and they really didn't want to be there, but if you
>*really* didn't want to go you could make enough noise about it and miss out
>if you wanted.
>Either that, or you could be a conscientious objector and do your two years
>on a prison farm.
Maybe if you were lucky.
I knew a conscientious objector who tried to take the legal way out.
He was handed over to the army by the law court and given the job of
painting army huts with a toothbrush. Nor was he allowed to take the
paint can up the ladder. He survived the two years but wasn't the
full quid when I met him.
Such was/is the military mentality!
The smart path was to obtain a medical exemption. Does anyone know of
any politician's son, Liberal or Labor, who actually did their nacho?
From: Noddy on 18 Jul 2010 19:35
"John_H" <john4721(a)inbox.com> wrote in message
> Maybe if you were lucky.
> I knew a conscientious objector who tried to take the legal way out.
> He was handed over to the army by the law court and given the job of
> painting army huts with a toothbrush. Nor was he allowed to take the
> paint can up the ladder. He survived the two years but wasn't the
> full quid when I met him.
> Such was/is the military mentality!
I don't know if it still is, but it certainly was. The Army used to survive
> The smart path was to obtain a medical exemption. Does anyone know of
> any politician's son, Liberal or Labor, who actually did their nacho?
I've never heard of one :)