The fragility of car computers revealed.
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From: Brimstone on 28 May 2010 08:30 "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message news:4bffb0d2$0$10283$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:DImdnZB9CsddPGLWnZ2dnUVZ8rudnZ2d(a)bt.com... >> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >> news:4bffa046$0$10327$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>> "Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message >>> news:1a3257bc-2bf0-4983-9306-19d36920719d(a)q23g2000vba.googlegroups.com... >>> On 27 May, 18:05, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam- >>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >>>> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message >>>> news:8f6cd527-7da5-4632-b455- >>>> >>>> <SNIP USUAL RANTING> >>>> >>>> > As I said, the word 'accidents' is a euphemism used to minimise the >>>> > accountability of those in sole charge of dangerous machines in >>>> > public >>>> > places who kill or injure someone else with those machines. If you >>>> > check, several major sources now tend to avoid the use of the word >>>> > 'accident' in connection with road crashes. >>>> >>>> But they are not dangerous machine are they. We've been over the >>>> figures >>>> time & time again. >>>> >>> The fact that they actually kill people does seriously suggest that >>> they are dangerous, despite you trying to conceal the fact with your >>> statistics. >>> >>> Doug - people are killed by many many objects in this world - guns, >>> knives, other people, boxing, cigarettes, tall buildings, small >>> buildings, bricks, trains, diseases, electricity, gas, aeroplanes, etc, >>> etc, etc. Why do you choose to persue this '1-man against the world >>> attitude' and focus on just the motor vehicle, which is the most highly >>> safety tested, licenced and controlled object in the entire list? >> <drives a hand into the air with all the fervour of a child who wants to >> show off> >> >> Sir, I know, sir. Please sir, I know sir, pleeease. >> >> <goes quiet and waits> > > Are you going to say "jealousy - because he can't afford one"? Oh no, that would be a very cheap jibe. It's much more personal to Doug than that.
From: GT on 28 May 2010 08:31 "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:IaqdnVvcy_7IKmLWnZ2dnUVZ7v-dnZ2d(a)bt.com... > "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message > news:4bffb0d2$0$10283$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:DImdnZB9CsddPGLWnZ2dnUVZ8rudnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >>> news:4bffa046$0$10327$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>>> "Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message >>>> news:1a3257bc-2bf0-4983-9306-19d36920719d(a)q23g2000vba.googlegroups.com... >>>> On 27 May, 18:05, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam- >>>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:8f6cd527-7da5-4632-b455- >>>>> >>>>> <SNIP USUAL RANTING> >>>>> >>>>> > As I said, the word 'accidents' is a euphemism used to minimise the >>>>> > accountability of those in sole charge of dangerous machines in >>>>> > public >>>>> > places who kill or injure someone else with those machines. If you >>>>> > check, several major sources now tend to avoid the use of the word >>>>> > 'accident' in connection with road crashes. >>>>> >>>>> But they are not dangerous machine are they. We've been over the >>>>> figures >>>>> time & time again. >>>>> >>>> The fact that they actually kill people does seriously suggest that >>>> they are dangerous, despite you trying to conceal the fact with your >>>> statistics. >>>> >>>> Doug - people are killed by many many objects in this world - guns, >>>> knives, other people, boxing, cigarettes, tall buildings, small >>>> buildings, bricks, trains, diseases, electricity, gas, aeroplanes, etc, >>>> etc, etc. Why do you choose to persue this '1-man against the world >>>> attitude' and focus on just the motor vehicle, which is the most highly >>>> safety tested, licenced and controlled object in the entire list? >>> <drives a hand into the air with all the fervour of a child who wants to >>> show off> >>> >>> Sir, I know, sir. Please sir, I know sir, pleeease. >>> >>> <goes quiet and waits> >> >> Are you going to say "jealousy - because he can't afford one"? > Oh no, that would be a very cheap jibe. It's much more personal to Doug > than that. In that case, please go ahead...
From: Brimstone on 28 May 2010 09:36 "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message news:4bffb7b8$0$10284$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:IaqdnVvcy_7IKmLWnZ2dnUVZ7v-dnZ2d(a)bt.com... >> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >> news:4bffb0d2$0$10283$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:DImdnZB9CsddPGLWnZ2dnUVZ8rudnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>>> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >>>> news:4bffa046$0$10327$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>>>> "Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:1a3257bc-2bf0-4983-9306-19d36920719d(a)q23g2000vba.googlegroups.com... >>>>> On 27 May, 18:05, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam- >>>>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message >>>>>> news:8f6cd527-7da5-4632-b455- >>>>>> >>>>>> <SNIP USUAL RANTING> >>>>>> >>>>>> > As I said, the word 'accidents' is a euphemism used to minimise the >>>>>> > accountability of those in sole charge of dangerous machines in >>>>>> > public >>>>>> > places who kill or injure someone else with those machines. If you >>>>>> > check, several major sources now tend to avoid the use of the word >>>>>> > 'accident' in connection with road crashes. >>>>>> >>>>>> But they are not dangerous machine are they. We've been over the >>>>>> figures >>>>>> time & time again. >>>>>> >>>>> The fact that they actually kill people does seriously suggest that >>>>> they are dangerous, despite you trying to conceal the fact with your >>>>> statistics. >>>>> >>>>> Doug - people are killed by many many objects in this world - guns, >>>>> knives, other people, boxing, cigarettes, tall buildings, small >>>>> buildings, bricks, trains, diseases, electricity, gas, aeroplanes, >>>>> etc, etc, etc. Why do you choose to persue this '1-man against the >>>>> world attitude' and focus on just the motor vehicle, which is the most >>>>> highly safety tested, licenced and controlled object in the entire >>>>> list? >>>> <drives a hand into the air with all the fervour of a child who wants >>>> to show off> >>>> >>>> Sir, I know, sir. Please sir, I know sir, pleeease. >>>> >>>> <goes quiet and waits> >>> >>> Are you going to say "jealousy - because he can't afford one"? >> Oh no, that would be a very cheap jibe. It's much more personal to Doug >> than that. > In that case, please go ahead... Doug has been in collisions with cars. The first (as reported by him) was as a child he ran into a stream of traffic to "rescue" an already deceased bird. The second was more recently when a car was turning right across Doug's path. Doug saw it coming but rather than give way and keep himself safe, he continued on his "right of way" and was struck by the car which resulted in Doug going to hospital. When reporting these incidents on uk.transport Doug was castigated for his stupidity in failing to stop or take a different path (by his own admission he had time). His only response was to complain about "people blaming the victim". He completely fails to understand that we all have a responsibility for our own safety and that even if someone else fouls up we should take avoiding action.
From: thomas.covenant on 28 May 2010 09:41 On May 28, 1:30 pm, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote in message > > news:4bffb0d2$0$10283$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > > > "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > >news:DImdnZB9CsddPGLWnZ2dnUVZ8rudnZ2d(a)bt.com... > >> "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote in message > >>news:4bffa046$0$10327$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > >>> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message > >>>news:1a3257bc-2bf0-4983-9306-19d36920719d(a)q23g2000vba.googlegroups.com.... > >>> On 27 May, 18:05, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam- > >>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >>>> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message > >>>> news:8f6cd527-7da5-4632-b455- > > >>>> <SNIP USUAL RANTING> > > >>>> > As I said, the word 'accidents' is a euphemism used to minimise the > >>>> > accountability of those in sole charge of dangerous machines in > >>>> > public > >>>> > places who kill or injure someone else with those machines. If you > >>>> > check, several major sources now tend to avoid the use of the word > >>>> > 'accident' in connection with road crashes. > > >>>> But they are not dangerous machine are they. We've been over the > >>>> figures > >>>> time & time again. > > >>> The fact that they actually kill people does seriously suggest that > >>> they are dangerous, despite you trying to conceal the fact with your > >>> statistics. > > >>> Doug - people are killed by many many objects in this world - guns, > >>> knives, other people, boxing, cigarettes, tall buildings, small > >>> buildings, bricks, trains, diseases, electricity, gas, aeroplanes, etc, > >>> etc, etc. Why do you choose to persue this '1-man against the world > >>> attitude' and focus on just the motor vehicle, which is the most highly > >>> safety tested, licenced and controlled object in the entire list? > >> <drives a hand into the air with all the fervour of a child who wants to > >> show off> > > >> Sir, I know, sir. Please sir, I know sir, pleeease. > > >> <goes quiet and waits> > > > Are you going to say "jealousy - because he can't afford one"? > > Oh no, that would be a very cheap jibe. It's much more personal to Doug than > that. Do you mean that he is a stupid, blinkered, hypercritical tosser, who has no knowledge of the real world, a person who maintains that he is an anarchist (but wants more laws), a supporter of people who dig up bodies & firebomb buildings. A person who believes everything that Indymedia publish. A person who believes that there are two sorts of ozone. A person who maintains that you are a better sort of dead if killed by a bicycle. A person who does not understand the meaning of a decimal point in maths. An illegal driver of an illegal vehicle that is not taxed or insured. A person who believes that you will die in this country in the winter if we can't import food. A person who states he is filming illegal traffic incidents while parked in an illegal place. A person with a special video camera that always turns off just before an incident.
From: GT on 28 May 2010 09:45
"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:KcKdneVNQdNXW2LWnZ2dnUVZ7vqdnZ2d(a)bt.com... > "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message > news:4bffb7b8$0$10284$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:IaqdnVvcy_7IKmLWnZ2dnUVZ7v-dnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >>> news:4bffb0d2$0$10283$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:DImdnZB9CsddPGLWnZ2dnUVZ8rudnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>>>> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >>>>> news:4bffa046$0$10327$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>>>>> "Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message >>>>>> news:1a3257bc-2bf0-4983-9306-19d36920719d(a)q23g2000vba.googlegroups.com... >>>>>> On 27 May, 18:05, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam- >>>>>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:8f6cd527-7da5-4632-b455- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <SNIP USUAL RANTING> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > As I said, the word 'accidents' is a euphemism used to minimise >>>>>>> > the >>>>>>> > accountability of those in sole charge of dangerous machines in >>>>>>> > public >>>>>>> > places who kill or injure someone else with those machines. If you >>>>>>> > check, several major sources now tend to avoid the use of the word >>>>>>> > 'accident' in connection with road crashes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But they are not dangerous machine are they. We've been over the >>>>>>> figures >>>>>>> time & time again. >>>>>>> >>>>>> The fact that they actually kill people does seriously suggest that >>>>>> they are dangerous, despite you trying to conceal the fact with your >>>>>> statistics. >>>>>> >>>>>> Doug - people are killed by many many objects in this world - guns, >>>>>> knives, other people, boxing, cigarettes, tall buildings, small >>>>>> buildings, bricks, trains, diseases, electricity, gas, aeroplanes, >>>>>> etc, etc, etc. Why do you choose to persue this '1-man against the >>>>>> world attitude' and focus on just the motor vehicle, which is the >>>>>> most highly safety tested, licenced and controlled object in the >>>>>> entire list? >>>>> <drives a hand into the air with all the fervour of a child who wants >>>>> to show off> >>>>> >>>>> Sir, I know, sir. Please sir, I know sir, pleeease. >>>>> >>>>> <goes quiet and waits> >>>> >>>> Are you going to say "jealousy - because he can't afford one"? >>> Oh no, that would be a very cheap jibe. It's much more personal to Doug >>> than that. >> In that case, please go ahead... > Doug has been in collisions with cars. The first (as reported by him) was > as a child he ran into a stream of traffic to "rescue" an already deceased > bird. The second was more recently when a car was turning right across > Doug's path. Doug saw it coming but rather than give way and keep himself > safe, he continued on his "right of way" and was struck by the car which > resulted in Doug going to hospital. > > When reporting these incidents on uk.transport Doug was castigated for his > stupidity in failing to stop or take a different path (by his own > admission he had time). His only response was to complain about "people > blaming the victim". He completely fails to understand that we all have a > responsibility for our own safety and that even if someone else fouls up > we should take avoiding action. I don't think he's going to like that post!! Hee hee! I do. |