From: Tony Dragon on
Doug wrote:
> On 21 May, 09:54, Conor <co...(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 21/05/2010 07:35, webreader wrote:> On May 21, 7:17 am, Doug<jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote:
>>>> Is it any wonder that so many cars crash because of faults and put
>>>> cyclists and pedestrian lives at risk? Isn't it time to go back to
>>>> mechanical control, which sensibly is still used on bicycles?
>> But you wanted them to be more environmentally friendly, Doug.
>>
>> BTW, where are the mandatory safety tests for bicycles? I've seen
>> shitloads out with knackered brakes, bald tyres and no lights at night.
>> It was so bad, a Police Force carried out a sting operation.
>>
> If a bicycle is defective it is ore than likely that the cyclist will
> be killed or injured becuase he i9s far less dangerous to others than
> a driver. I have no doubt that ths sting was practiced by cops who are
> also motorists.
>>>> "The computer systems used to control modern cars are very vulnerable
>>>> to attack, say experts.
>> And just how do they get access to it, Doug?
>>
> Electromagnetic pulse? But that is not the question is it. The car
> computer system, like all computer systems, is susceptible to glitches
> but unlike your computer at home when it happens it can be highly
> dangerous.
>>>> The researchers showed how to kill a car engine remotely, turn off the
>>>> brakes so the car would not stop and make instruments give false
>>>> readings.
>> Remotely? I doubt anything but the engine turning off.\
>>
> Well you would wouldn't you, because your car uses a computer.
>>>> Despite their success, the team said it would be hard for malicious
>>>> attackers to reproduce their work..."
>> So in fact its irrelevent then. Just like you.
>>
> Not irrelevant at all. See above.
>>> "The team got at the ECUs via the communications ports fitted as
>>> standard on most cars that enable mechanics to gather data about a
>>> vehicle before they begin servicing or repair work."
>>> This team of experts has found that if you access the computors comms
>>> port, you can control the computor, now who would have thought that?
>> So you actually have to have physical access to the service port in the
>> car. How many are going to be able to do that as its driving past them?
>>
> Again, see above.
>
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Doug, there are a number of computer companies not to mention security
services who would like to use your unique knowledge, why don't you put
yourself up for sale?

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Tony Dragon
From: Tony Dragon on
Phil W Lee wrote:
> Marie <marie.lawrie(a)yahoo.co.uk> considered Sat, 22 May 2010 01:35:54
> -0700 (PDT) the perfect time to write:
>
>> Yet again Doug uses the old 'cops are against cyclists, because cops
>> are car drivers' rubbish.
>
> Maybe you should look at some actual statistics before arguing with
> this one.
>
> Then you would see that cyclists are indeed targeted by the police to
> a degree out of all proportion to the danger they represent to others,
> where the far more dangerous motorist behaviours are largely ignored.

Marie seemed to be commenting on Doug s repetitive ramblings.

You on the other hand are quoting stats, but it would be a good idea if
you also provided the stats & a credible link.

By the way the police also target other crimes that are in theirself not
a danger

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Tony Dragon
From: The Medway Handyman on
Phil W Lee wrote:
> Marie <marie.lawrie(a)yahoo.co.uk> considered Sat, 22 May 2010 01:35:54
> -0700 (PDT) the perfect time to write:
>
>>
>> Yet again Doug uses the old 'cops are against cyclists, because cops
>> are car drivers' rubbish.
>
> Maybe you should look at some actual statistics before arguing with
> this one.
>
> Then you would see that cyclists are indeed targeted by the police to
> a degree out of all proportion to the danger they represent to others,
> where the far more dangerous motorist behaviours are largely ignored.

Perhaps they are targeted in proportion to the traffic laws they break.


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viable form of transport.


From: Doug on
On 22 May, 14:29, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-
blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Phil W Lee wrote:
> > Marie <marie.law...(a)yahoo.co.uk> considered Sat, 22 May 2010 01:35:54
> > -0700 (PDT) the perfect time to write:
>
> >> Yet again Doug uses the old 'cops are against cyclists, because cops
> >> are car drivers' rubbish.
>
> > Maybe you should look at some actual statistics before arguing with
> > this one.
>
> > Then you would see that cyclists are indeed targeted by the police to
> > a degree out of all proportion to the danger they represent to others,
> > where the far more dangerous motorist behaviours are largely ignored.
>
> Perhaps they are targeted in proportion to the traffic laws they break.
>
What like stopping in ASLs or tailgating other drivers, even ramming
cyclists? Its fun to watch the police in action on TV pulling drivers
right left and centre until you realise they are only getting a tiny
proportion of them. Its even more entertaining when the cops start
talking about their beloved and expensive pursuit cars and you realise
that they are just another bunch of petrol heads with the same
primitive, speed-hungry mentality as all the rest. Of course they
don't like cyclists, who get in their way but who can get through gaps
in traffic jams they can't..

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From: Tony Dragon on
Doug wrote:
> On 22 May, 14:29, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-
> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> Phil W Lee wrote:
>>> Marie <marie.law...(a)yahoo.co.uk> considered Sat, 22 May 2010 01:35:54
>>> -0700 (PDT) the perfect time to write:
>>>> Yet again Doug uses the old 'cops are against cyclists, because cops
>>>> are car drivers' rubbish.
>>> Maybe you should look at some actual statistics before arguing with
>>> this one.
>>> Then you would see that cyclists are indeed targeted by the police to
>>> a degree out of all proportion to the danger they represent to others,
>>> where the far more dangerous motorist behaviours are largely ignored.
>> Perhaps they are targeted in proportion to the traffic laws they break.
>>
> What like stopping in ASLs or tailgating other drivers, even ramming
> cyclists? Its fun to watch the police in action on TV pulling drivers
> right left and centre until you realise they are only getting a tiny
> proportion of them. Its even more entertaining when the cops start
> talking about their beloved and expensive pursuit cars and you realise
> that they are just another bunch of petrol heads with the same
> primitive, speed-hungry mentality as all the rest. Of course they
> don't like cyclists, who get in their way but who can get through gaps
> in traffic jams they can't..
>
> --
> UK Radical Campaigns.
> http://www.zing.icom43.net
> A driving licence is a licence to kill.
>
>
>
>
>

Only just the start of the week & you've used the 'r' word.

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Tony Dragon