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From: Doug on 30 Apr 2010 05:25 On 30 Apr, 09:31, "mileburner" <milebur...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > Brimstone wrote: > > "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message > >news:a0aec45d-9f49-4989-b0e3-4649b90e0c17(a)w36g2000yqw.googlegroups.com... > >> On 30 Apr, 00:02, "DavidR" <cured...(a)4bidden.org.uk> wrote: > >>> "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote > > >>>> Many/most of the disabled are no in a position to ride any kind of > >>>> bike Doug. As usual, you think of no one except yourself. > > >>> If a blind person rides on the back of a tandem cease to qualify as > >>> disabled? Or a one legged cyclist? How about the people with back, > >>> hip or knee problems that struggle to walk a few yards but can > >>> easily ride a bike? > > >> Its because they are tarred with the same derogatory brush as > >> cyclists in general. The disabled must either be seated in a > >> wheelchair or a car to qualify. The fact that a wheelchair could do > >> 20mph on a pavement doesn't matter. Its the image that counts. > >> Anyone on a bicycle must be fighting fit and able bodied and lawless > >> by definition. There can be no exceptions and that is why they are > >> not allowed on pavements or railway platforms. > > > Doug, how many times do you have to be told. Bicycles are not allowed > > to be ridden on railway platforms for the safety of the rider and > > other people. > > The risk is fairly obvious. The danger is that rider or pedestrian could > topple off the edge and get seriously squished. > Same applies with people accidentally shoving other people. Doug.
From: Brimstone on 30 Apr 2010 05:36 "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message news:hre4hg$gk1$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > Brimstone wrote: >> "Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message >> news:a0aec45d-9f49-4989-b0e3-4649b90e0c17(a)w36g2000yqw.googlegroups.com... >>> On 30 Apr, 00:02, "DavidR" <cured...(a)4bidden.org.uk> wrote: >>>> "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Many/most of the disabled are no in a position to ride any kind of >>>>> bike Doug. As usual, you think of no one except yourself. >>>> >>>> If a blind person rides on the back of a tandem cease to qualify as >>>> disabled? Or a one legged cyclist? How about the people with back, >>>> hip or knee problems that struggle to walk a few yards but can >>>> easily ride a bike? >>>> >>> Its because they are tarred with the same derogatory brush as >>> cyclists in general. The disabled must either be seated in a >>> wheelchair or a car to qualify. The fact that a wheelchair could do >>> 20mph on a pavement doesn't matter. Its the image that counts. >>> Anyone on a bicycle must be fighting fit and able bodied and lawless >>> by definition. There can be no exceptions and that is why they are >>> not allowed on pavements or railway platforms. >>> >> Doug, how many times do you have to be told. Bicycles are not allowed >> to be ridden on railway platforms for the safety of the rider and >> other people. > > The risk is fairly obvious. The danger is that rider or pedestrian could > topple off the edge and get seriously squished. Which is so far beyond Doug's understanding that he might as well be on another plant in another galaxy. Oh, hang on ...
From: Brimstone on 30 Apr 2010 05:37 "Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message news:38c4cee6-fb5f-4c77-a4c9-472def1926cb(a)o8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com... > On 30 Apr, 09:31, "mileburner" <milebur...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >> Brimstone wrote: >> > "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message >> >news:a0aec45d-9f49-4989-b0e3-4649b90e0c17(a)w36g2000yqw.googlegroups.com... >> >> On 30 Apr, 00:02, "DavidR" <cured...(a)4bidden.org.uk> wrote: >> >>> "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote >> >> >>>> Many/most of the disabled are no in a position to ride any kind of >> >>>> bike Doug. As usual, you think of no one except yourself. >> >> >>> If a blind person rides on the back of a tandem cease to qualify as >> >>> disabled? Or a one legged cyclist? How about the people with back, >> >>> hip or knee problems that struggle to walk a few yards but can >> >>> easily ride a bike? >> >> >> Its because they are tarred with the same derogatory brush as >> >> cyclists in general. The disabled must either be seated in a >> >> wheelchair or a car to qualify. The fact that a wheelchair could do >> >> 20mph on a pavement doesn't matter. Its the image that counts. >> >> Anyone on a bicycle must be fighting fit and able bodied and lawless >> >> by definition. There can be no exceptions and that is why they are >> >> not allowed on pavements or railway platforms. >> >> > Doug, how many times do you have to be told. Bicycles are not allowed >> > to be ridden on railway platforms for the safety of the rider and >> > other people. >> >> The risk is fairly obvious. The danger is that rider or pedestrian could >> topple off the edge and get seriously squished. >> > Same applies with people accidentally shoving other people. > Quite true. What's your point?
From: ChelseaTractorMan on 30 Apr 2010 09:22 On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 21:29:29 +0100, Tom Anderson <twic(a)urchin.earth.li> wrote: >Mass motoring effects an absolute triumph of bourgeois ideology on the >level of daily life. It gives and supports in everyone the illusion >that each individual can seek his or her own benefit at the expense of >everyone else. -- Andre Gorz which makes cycling seem great till it rains, you want to go the sort of distance you cannot walk or carry more than a small rucksack. -- Mike. .. . Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: boltar2003 on 30 Apr 2010 09:26
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 14:22:03 +0100 ChelseaTractorMan <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 21:29:29 +0100, Tom Anderson ><twic(a)urchin.earth.li> wrote: > >>Mass motoring effects an absolute triumph of bourgeois ideology on the >>level of daily life. It gives and supports in everyone the illusion >>that each individual can seek his or her own benefit at the expense of >>everyone else. -- Andre Gorz > >which makes cycling seem great till it rains, you want to go the sort >of distance you cannot walk or carry more than a small rucksack. Ah , but thats nobel suffering of the put upon proletariate ;) B2003 |