The horrors of biofuels.
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From: mileburner on 27 Apr 2010 13:57 "Jim A" <ja(a)averyjim.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message news:4bd72447$0$2527$da0feed9(a)news.zen.co.uk... > On 04/27/2010 09:24 AM, ash wrote: > >> If the cyclist is a Vegan and buys any food from supermarkets in the >> UK, then I'd say that they are responsible for a substantial amount of >> fossil fuel being burnt to grow and transport their foodstuffs - >> especially greenhouse grown tomato's/peppers etc > > I'm growing my own tomatoes this year :-) A friend of mine used to grow his own cannabis plants. That would have saved transportation from the middle east or the Caribbean. Maybe he should have been given a tax rebate.
From: Jim A on 27 Apr 2010 14:11 On 04/27/2010 06:57 PM, mileburner wrote: > "Jim A"<ja(a)averyjim.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message > news:4bd72447$0$2527$da0feed9(a)news.zen.co.uk... >> On 04/27/2010 09:24 AM, ash wrote: >> >>> If the cyclist is a Vegan and buys any food from supermarkets in the >>> UK, then I'd say that they are responsible for a substantial amount of >>> fossil fuel being burnt to grow and transport their foodstuffs - >>> especially greenhouse grown tomato's/peppers etc >> >> I'm growing my own tomatoes this year :-) > > A friend of mine used to grow his own cannabis plants. That would have saved > transportation from the middle east or the Caribbean. Maybe he should have > been given a tax rebate. Indeed. I can't help thinking that if cannabis were legalised people would have little incentive to grow it indoors under powerful electric lighting. If we are serious about global warming we should legalise home-growing of cannabis under natural light. -- www.slowbicyclemovement.org - enjoy the ride
From: Alex Potter on 27 Apr 2010 15:26 On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 19:11:06 +0100, Jim A wrote: > If we are serious about global warming we should legalise home-growing > of cannabis under natural light. If we were serious about all sorts of things, we'd do that. -- Alex
From: OG on 27 Apr 2010 19:05 "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:g6CdnVVTNcONEkvWnZ2dnUVZ7oudnZ2d(a)bt.com... > > > "Derek C" <del.copeland(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message > news:9abac1a2-0d78-405f-9ebc-9095d91ef429(a)b6g2000yqi.googlegroups.com... >> On 27 Apr, 08:07, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote: >>> >>> > Don't cyclists eat? >>> >>> The point you are deliberately missing is that human food is wasted on >>> making biofuels for cars, while eating is necessary to sustain life >>> and well-being. Food itself is not classed as a biofuel. >>> >>> -- >> It is when it is converted into cycling miles! >> > Does anyone know how much land is required to fuel a (say) ten mile > bicycle trip? > It may just be a factoid, but I recall hearing somewhere that there is no more efficient means of active transport in the whole of the animal kingdom than a person on a bicycle. Granted, a 10 mile (45 minute?) bicycle trip will take more fuel than 45 minutes sitting in a chair; but it will require much less energy than a 10 mile walk.
From: OG on 27 Apr 2010 19:18
<boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message news:hr68v3$ma4$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:53:15 -0700 (PDT) > Doug <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote: >>They thought it would be the solution to their polluting, motorised >>wanderlust but this BBC radio programmed tells a very different story. >>Isn't it great that bicycles don't need biofuels? >> >>http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p00775jj/The_Monday_Documentary_The_Price_ >>f_Biofuels_Episode_1/ > > Reality finally hits home with some parts of the "eco" lobby. > > One can only hope that the eco nutters will one day wake up to what a > complete waste of time wind farms are and how we should have invested in > new nuclear power stations decades ago. And we probably would have done if > it hadn't been for loud mouthed but tiny brained right-on dole scroungers > and out of work students looking for a cause protesting about anything > with > "nuclear" in the title. > > B2003 You do talk rubbish. Nuclear power has never been economic compared to fossil fuel power. Have there been UK power generating companies pressing for expansion of the nuclear generation capacity since the great 'free market' liberalisation of the 1980's/90's ? No; they have been far more interested in the quick buck, cash in now, and let the long term energy security of UK go hang. If there had been any way of making money out of nuclear, do you think corporations would have let the objectors get in their way? Don't blame the environmentalists, blame the capitalists. |