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From: George W Frost on 24 Jul 2010 03:18 "F Murtz" <haggisz(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4c4a5495$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... > Clocky wrote: >> F Murtz wrote: >>> PHATRS wrote: >>>> On 23/07/10 10:48, who where wrote: >>>>> http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/mp/7631821/all-day-40km-h-zone-plan-backed/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Apparently the 90 minutes each morning and afternoon aren't enough >>>>> for some. Now it seems there are more parents/carers (who *should* >>>>> be able to look out for themselves near a road?) and children (why >>>>> are they there?) outside those hours, seemingly necessitating the >>>>> all-day speed curfew. >>>> >>>> No mention of the impact on the road toll, before 40km zones were >>>> implemented or after the permanent limit is in place. >>>> >>>> Lots of talk about fines though. >>>> >>>> And the council guy says they are concerned about cost to change the >>>> signs. It's all about the money folks. >>>> >>>> Ben >>> There Is a minor reduction in toll at zones but an increase elsewhere >>> as school zones are a completely wrong way to teach road safety to >>> young learning minds >>> They get conditioned about roads at school zones and when they have a >>> real road to contend with, they get run over. >> >> It's up to parents to teach them how to cross roads starting from as soon >> as >> they start to walk. >> >> If kids don't know how to cross a road by the time they go to school it's >> not the system that has failed the child... >> >> > But they don't, so the govt puts these stupid non effective school zone > restrictions on that don't drop the overall child accident rates, instead > of training schoolchildren properly. Whatever happened to the local copper going to the school once a week giving the kids road use instructions
From: who where on 24 Jul 2010 05:43 On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:18:07 +1000, "George W Frost" <georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >"F Murtz" <haggisz(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:4c4a5495$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... >> Clocky wrote: >>> F Murtz wrote: >>>> PHATRS wrote: >>>>> On 23/07/10 10:48, who where wrote: >>>>>> http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/mp/7631821/all-day-40km-h-zone-plan-backed/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Apparently the 90 minutes each morning and afternoon aren't enough >>>>>> for some. Now it seems there are more parents/carers (who *should* >>>>>> be able to look out for themselves near a road?) and children (why >>>>>> are they there?) outside those hours, seemingly necessitating the >>>>>> all-day speed curfew. >>>>> >>>>> No mention of the impact on the road toll, before 40km zones were >>>>> implemented or after the permanent limit is in place. >>>>> >>>>> Lots of talk about fines though. >>>>> >>>>> And the council guy says they are concerned about cost to change the >>>>> signs. It's all about the money folks. >>>>> >>>>> Ben >>>> There Is a minor reduction in toll at zones but an increase elsewhere >>>> as school zones are a completely wrong way to teach road safety to >>>> young learning minds >>>> They get conditioned about roads at school zones and when they have a >>>> real road to contend with, they get run over. >>> >>> It's up to parents to teach them how to cross roads starting from as soon >>> as >>> they start to walk. >>> >>> If kids don't know how to cross a road by the time they go to school it's >>> not the system that has failed the child... >>> >>> >> But they don't, so the govt puts these stupid non effective school zone >> restrictions on that don't drop the overall child accident rates, instead >> of training schoolchildren properly. > >Whatever happened to the local copper going to the school once a week giving >the kids road use instructions Dunno, but the local copper giving them a firm clout behind the ear the first time they got caught shoplifting is another effective training method that has sadly (long) gone by the wayside. Now, primary school teachers are expected to instil everything from values to social behaviour, and this to a horde who no longer show any respect for their elders or society in general. Parents need to lift their game big time.
From: Clocky on 24 Jul 2010 07:49 F Murtz wrote: > Clocky wrote: >> F Murtz wrote: >>> PHATRS wrote: >>>> On 23/07/10 10:48, who where wrote: >>>>> http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/mp/7631821/all-day-40km-h-zone-plan-backed/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Apparently the 90 minutes each morning and afternoon aren't enough >>>>> for some. Now it seems there are more parents/carers (who *should* >>>>> be able to look out for themselves near a road?) and children (why >>>>> are they there?) outside those hours, seemingly necessitating the >>>>> all-day speed curfew. >>>> >>>> No mention of the impact on the road toll, before 40km zones were >>>> implemented or after the permanent limit is in place. >>>> >>>> Lots of talk about fines though. >>>> >>>> And the council guy says they are concerned about cost to change >>>> the signs. It's all about the money folks. >>>> >>>> Ben >>> There Is a minor reduction in toll at zones but an increase >>> elsewhere as school zones are a completely wrong way to teach road >>> safety to young learning minds >>> They get conditioned about roads at school zones and when they have >>> a real road to contend with, they get run over. >> >> It's up to parents to teach them how to cross roads starting from as >> soon as they start to walk. >> >> If kids don't know how to cross a road by the time they go to school >> it's not the system that has failed the child... >> >> > But they don't, so the govt puts these stupid non effective school > zone restrictions on that don't drop the overall child accident rates, > instead of training schoolchildren properly. Parents shold have taught their kids properly before they even make it to school age.
From: atec77 on 24 Jul 2010 10:07 On 24/07/2010 7:43 PM, who where wrote: > On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:18:07 +1000, "George W Frost" > <georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> "F Murtz"<haggisz(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:4c4a5495$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... >>> Clocky wrote: >>>> F Murtz wrote: >>>>> PHATRS wrote: >>>>>> On 23/07/10 10:48, who where wrote: >>>>>>> http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/mp/7631821/all-day-40km-h-zone-plan-backed/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Apparently the 90 minutes each morning and afternoon aren't enough >>>>>>> for some. Now it seems there are more parents/carers (who *should* >>>>>>> be able to look out for themselves near a road?) and children (why >>>>>>> are they there?) outside those hours, seemingly necessitating the >>>>>>> all-day speed curfew. >>>>>> >>>>>> No mention of the impact on the road toll, before 40km zones were >>>>>> implemented or after the permanent limit is in place. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lots of talk about fines though. >>>>>> >>>>>> And the council guy says they are concerned about cost to change the >>>>>> signs. It's all about the money folks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ben >>>>> There Is a minor reduction in toll at zones but an increase elsewhere >>>>> as school zones are a completely wrong way to teach road safety to >>>>> young learning minds >>>>> They get conditioned about roads at school zones and when they have a >>>>> real road to contend with, they get run over. >>>> >>>> It's up to parents to teach them how to cross roads starting from as soon >>>> as >>>> they start to walk. >>>> >>>> If kids don't know how to cross a road by the time they go to school it's >>>> not the system that has failed the child... >>>> >>>> >>> But they don't, so the govt puts these stupid non effective school zone >>> restrictions on that don't drop the overall child accident rates, instead >>> of training schoolchildren properly. >> >> Whatever happened to the local copper going to the school once a week giving >> the kids road use instructions > > Dunno, but the local copper giving them a firm clout behind the ear > the first time they got caught shoplifting is another effective > training method that has sadly (long) gone by the wayside. > > Now, primary school teachers are expected to instil everything from > values to social behaviour, and this to a horde who no longer show any > respect for their elders or society in general. Parents need to lift > their game big time. I had occasion to try instilling some kwoledge into several young blokes in a trade , it was glaringly obvious they had no respect for them selves and little for me initially Once it was explained things should go my way or they failed the course and lost the chance to redo it for some time things improved which begs the question why were they so hell bent on being stupid ? I was pretty wild at that age but I had an understanding of respect and acceptable behaviour including not swearing or being an arsehole in class If these kids are a product of modern high schools then bring back the cane and other forms of smashing them into shape -- X-No-Archive: Yes
From: Kev on 24 Jul 2010 11:53
Toby wrote: > On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:48:23 +1000, Kev posited in: > >> In Brisbane's Fortitude Valley the speed is 40kph on Thur.Fri, Sat and >> Sun nights because of the drunken fuckwits staggering out of the night >> clubs. and they have taken to putting up barriers because the crowds >> used to spill out and stand in the left traffic lanes while waiting to >> get into the next night club(Turning left into Wickham St from Anne St >> was a huge headache, especially in a truck) > > not possible - unless...shirley you mean Wickham to Brunswick and vice > versa - or maybe McLachlan Brunswick to Anne - Whatever - were you banned > from the James St /Robertson St or Arthur St? > Yeah Sorry it was Brunswick St off Anne Street had to get to Kent & Brunswick street and yes. 1am we were told not to drive around the back streets. Might wake someone up Kev |