From: Toby on
On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 20:23:14 +1000, Milton wrote:

> "D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
> news:4c367866$0$11118$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>
>
>
>> We had a 67 Mk1 for a while, reliability was comparable with anything else
>> of that vintage, not without problems but a good car in its day and a much
>> better drive than any same year Falcodore.
>
> What??The XR was the first of the mustang bred Falcons and were a great car
> of the day. The Commodores weren't even invented til way way later in '79 (I
> think it was).
>
> Cheers
>
> Milton

Huh?
And here's me thinking that Falcon begat Mustang for all those years:-)
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Toby.
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From: Toby on
On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 22:42:57 +1000, D Walford wrote:

> On 9/07/2010 8:23 PM, Milton wrote:
>>
>> "D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
>> news:4c367866$0$11118$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>> We had a 67 Mk1 for a while, reliability was comparable with anything
>>> else of that vintage, not without problems but a good car in its day
>>> and a much better drive than any same year Falcodore.
>>
>> What??The XR was the first of the mustang bred Falcons and were a great
>> car of the day. The Commodores weren't even invented til way way later
>> in '79 (I think it was).
>
> For a start the 1800 had disc brakes and rack and pinion steering unlike
> the Ford which had dodgy drums and very vague steering, they also had
> the best ride and most comfortable interior.
> Like I said they weren't without their problems but they did have lots
> of good points.
>
>
> Daryl

And Even_If BMC had put a half decent engine in the bastards and so made a
very good car indeed, their fucked upper-class-twit accountants would still
have buggered it up for them.
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Toby.
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From: D Walford on
On 10/07/2010 2:10 PM, Toby wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 22:42:57 +1000, D Walford wrote:
>
>> On 9/07/2010 8:23 PM, Milton wrote:
>>>
>>> "D Walford"<dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4c367866$0$11118$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> We had a 67 Mk1 for a while, reliability was comparable with anything
>>>> else of that vintage, not without problems but a good car in its day
>>>> and a much better drive than any same year Falcodore.
>>>
>>> What??The XR was the first of the mustang bred Falcons and were a great
>>> car of the day. The Commodores weren't even invented til way way later
>>> in '79 (I think it was).
>>
>> For a start the 1800 had disc brakes and rack and pinion steering unlike
>> the Ford which had dodgy drums and very vague steering, they also had
>> the best ride and most comfortable interior.
>> Like I said they weren't without their problems but they did have lots
>> of good points.
>>
>>
>> Daryl
>
> And Even_If BMC had put a half decent engine in the bastards and so made a
> very good car indeed, their fucked upper-class-twit accountants would still
> have buggered it up for them.

The B series engines didn't make a lot of power and leaked oil as per
every other English engine but IMO they weren't bad engines in their day.
It was easy to get them to make a lot more power, MGB pistons, cam,
carbies and a bit of head work would gain lots and it was easy to do and
not expensive.



Daryl
From: atec77 on
On 9/07/2010 4:15 PM, D Walford wrote:
> On 9/07/2010 2:04 PM, Jason James wrote:
>> "D Walford"<dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
>> news:4c367866$0$11118$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>>> On 9/07/2010 10:45 AM, Jason James wrote:
>>>> I guess you probably have to own the car in question to assess its
>>>> reliability. In our family, we had 7 English cars over 20 odd years>
>>>
>>> I've had 3, English design but AFAIK all made in Australia.
>>> 65 Austin Healey Sprite, 65 Mk1 Cortina GT and a 67 Mk1 Austin 1800.
>>> Of those I wish I'd have enough foresight to keep the Cortina, its now
>>> worth a hell of a lot more than it owed me.
>>
>> Yeah,..aint it always the way. Love the Healeys, especially the 3 litre.
>>
>>
>>>> Say no more, great little car,..altho A series noisy bigends a prob.
>>>>
>>>> In the early '60s, you could pick an A series powered car with a few
>>>> miles
>>>> on it, by the bigend rattle.
>>>
>>> Only owned car powered by one of those and never had a big end
>>> problem and
>>> neither did anyone else I know who owned numerous Mini's, MG Midgets and
>>> Sprites so its not a problem I've heard of.
>>
>> I was referring to older high mileage Austin A30s for example. As a
>> kid my
>> uncle was telling me this as we sat out the front of my house. It
>> seemed the
>> bigend bearings were less than capable of unlimited miles like today :-)
>
> Most people would expect a lot more reliability out of modern vehicles,
> I'd be very annoyed if I didn't get 350-400,000klms out of a car engine
> without needing any major work but in the 60's most engines needed major
> work long before 200,000klms.
>
>
>
> Daryl
several on my austins got quarterly motor rebuilds :)
still if you thrash the snot out of such a tiny motor

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From: Clocky on
Athol wrote:
> Clocky <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote:
>> Milton wrote:
>
>>> What??The XR was the first of the mustang bred Falcons and were a
>>> great car of the day. The Commodores weren't even invented til way
>>> way later in '79 (I think it was).
>
> So it would have been a Falcwood back then. :-p
>
>> September 1978 and introduced a month later, well that is the
>> Australian Commodore but it's based on the Opel Rekord E from 1977.
>
> Which had a large chunk of copying (suspension in particular) from
> the 2-series Volvo, which came out in 1974.

The Commodore didn't share any mechanicals (suspension, steering and
driveline) with the Rekord.

The Rekord didn't even have rack and pinion steering.



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