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From: boltar2003 on 1 Jul 2010 10:27 On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 13:46:30 +0100 Cynic <cynic_999(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >Its molecular magnetic resonance properties caused by their unique >bipolar shape. Any bipolar molecule has a magnetic moment you numptie. And waters shape isn't nearly as unique as a lot of other molecules. >sounded equally absurd. We are nowhere close to understanding all the >possible changes that can occur inside atoms and molecules, and there >are an awful lot of molecules inside a small vial of water. We understand the properties of molecules pretty damn well otherwise the biotech and pharma industries would be non starters. >Incidentally, you realise that no amount of chemical analysis or >optical examination of a flash memory chip would be able to tell the >difference between a chip that has no information stored in it and a >chip that containes data of the complete human genome? No , but some simple voltage measurements would. Please feel free to explain how if water has a memory of the molecules it comes into contact with it stores ALL those memories. Or does it just store only the last one it met? In which case any "memories" would vanish as soon as someone drunk the water and it met their stomach contents or failing that all the chemicals in their blood. B2003
From: Cynic on 1 Jul 2010 10:47 On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 15:11:10 +0100, "Norman Wells" <stibbons(a)unseen.ac.am> wrote: >You stick if you like with your view that water can have a memory, and that >fairies may exist. What do I care if it makes you ridiculous? And you may stick with your view that radio waves are an impossibility and silicon chips cannot possibly store information. What do I care if it makes you ridiculous? -- Cynic
From: bod on 1 Jul 2010 11:23 Cynic wrote: > On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 15:11:10 +0100, "Norman Wells" > <stibbons(a)unseen.ac.am> wrote: > >> You stick if you like with your view that water can have a memory, and that >> fairies may exist. What do I care if it makes you ridiculous? > > And you may stick with your view that radio waves are an impossibility > and silicon chips cannot possibly store information. What do I care > if it makes you ridiculous? > > Well, according to this site, it's not exactly clear cut as to whether water has a memory or not. Apparently there are many scientists that do beieve it has. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread312647/pg1 Bod
From: Man at B&Q on 1 Jul 2010 11:32 On Jul 1, 3:27 pm, boltar2...(a)boltar.world wrote: > On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 13:46:30 +0100 > > Cynic <cynic_...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >Its molecular magnetic resonance properties caused by their unique > >bipolar shape. > > Any bipolar molecule has a magnetic moment you numptie. And waters shape > isn't nearly as unique as a lot of other molecules. > > >sounded equally absurd. We are nowhere close to understanding all the > >possible changes that can occur inside atoms and molecules, and there > >are an awful lot of molecules inside a small vial of water. > > We understand the properties of molecules pretty damn well otherwise > the biotech and pharma industries would be non starters. > > >Incidentally, you realise that no amount of chemical analysis or > >optical examination of a flash memory chip would be able to tell the > >difference between a chip that has no information stored in it and a > >chip that containes data of the complete human genome? > > No , but some simple voltage measurements would. > > Please feel free to explain how if water has a memory of the molecules it > comes into contact with it stores ALL those memories. Or does it just store > only the last one it met? In which case any "memories" would vanish as soon > as someone drunk the water and it met their stomach contents or failing > that all the chemicals in their blood. Wouldn't even get that far, what about all the surrounding water to remember? MBQ
From: Cynic on 1 Jul 2010 11:43
On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 14:27:53 +0000 (UTC), boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote: >>Its molecular magnetic resonance properties caused by their unique >>bipolar shape. >Any bipolar molecule has a magnetic moment you numptie. And waters shape >isn't nearly as unique as a lot of other molecules. The shape of a water molecule is unique. You cannot have anything that is more unique or less unique. One theoretical application of the property is that of producing a computer memory that uses water molecules as a storage element. Water molecules inside a carbon nanotube take up one of two possible orientations. Individual molecules can be "flipped" by means of external fields. Theoretically we could store one bit of binary information in each water molecule allowing millions of terabytes to be stored in a single drop of water. >>sounded equally absurd. We are nowhere close to understanding all the >>possible changes that can occur inside atoms and molecules, and there >>are an awful lot of molecules inside a small vial of water. >We understand the properties of molecules pretty damn well otherwise >the biotech and pharma industries would be non starters. We understand enough of the properties to be of good use in those industries, sure. In due course we may well discover other facts about molecules, atoms and subatomics that will allow us to make many more things. Perhaps even controlled fission reactions. >>Incidentally, you realise that no amount of chemical analysis or >>optical examination of a flash memory chip would be able to tell the >>difference between a chip that has no information stored in it and a >>chip that containes data of the complete human genome? >No , but some simple voltage measurements would. And perhaps if we were to take voltage measurements across all the water molecules in a sample we may find differences between samples. >Please feel free to explain how if water has a memory of the molecules it >comes into contact with it stores ALL those memories. I have no idea whether it has any memory capability at all, and in fact think it is pretty unlikely. Just not completely impossible. If I were able to explain how such a mechanism worked and exactly how it behaved, it would not be unknown, would it? -- Cynic |