From: Eeyore on


Conor wrote:

> Hiram says...
> > "Brimstone" wrote:
> >
> > > > The point I'm trying to make is - flying an aircraft is harder than
> > > > driving a truck. Much harder.
> > >
> > > How so, are there idiots in small runabouts, traffic lights, roundabouts and
> > > pedestrians with a death wish at 10,000 ft as well?-
> >
> > OK, let me specify something here.
> >
> > Flying an aircraft is 'intellectually' harder than driving a truck.
>
> The actual task of flying isn't as WW2 proved, it's all the ancilliary
> stuff such as navigation and understanding how and why.

Why do you think flying's so astonishingly safe now ?

Graham

From: Eeyore on


Brimstone wrote:

> Hiram wrote:
> > "Brimstone" wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is driving a C1 the same as driving a C+E?
> >>
> >> Each has their own challenges.
> >
> > Yes - but one challenge is harder than the other. Just like the
> > difference between a Cessna and a 747. :)
>
> Exactly so, but both a/c rely on the same basic priciples to operate. The
> 747 merely has more switches and button etc to operate and thus more to go
> wrong.

It goes WAY WAY beyond that.

Graham


From: Hiram on
>
> Exactly so, but both a/c rely on the same basic priciples to operate. The
> 747 merely has more switches and button etc to operate and thus more to go
> wrong.

And the extra buttons is why it is harder to operate.

Thats my point, a 747 is hard to operate.

How long does it take to do PPL?

How long does it take to be instrument rated multi engine?





From: Eeyore on


David Taylor wrote:

> Conor wrote:
> > Eeyore says...
> >>
> >> False EPR readings have caused many a crash.
> >>
> > Is wrong. Pilots not believing their eyes and ears is what caused the
> > crashes, certainly in the case of Air Florida flight 90.
>
> OTOH, Pilots believing their eyes and ears

Ears especially (centre of balance).


> over what their instuments were telling them has also caused numerous
> crashes (from
> "spatial disorientation").

Correct. Far more accidents in fact. Pilots HAVE to believe their
instruments. They're far more reliable than nay human.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


Brimstone wrote:

> Eeyore wrote:
> > Brimstone wrote:
> >> Hiram wrote:
> >>> "Brimstone" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> The point I'm trying to make is - flying an aircraft is harder
> >>>>> than driving a truck. Much harder.
> >>>>
> >>>> How so, are there idiots in small runabouts, traffic lights,
> >>>> roundabouts and pedestrians with a death wish at 10,000 ft as
> >>>> well?-
> >>>
> >>> OK, let me specify something here.
> >>>
> >>> Flying an aircraft is 'intellectually' harder than driving a truck.
> >>>
> >>> Happy now?
> >>
> >> No.
> >
> > How so ?
>
> If flying was more intellectualy challenging than driving a road vehicle
> then we wouldn't have computers controlling aircraft.

The tortured logic behind that concept has left me baffled.

Are you saying for example that truck drivers would be better drivers if
they had no cruise control ?

Do you not also realise that a heck of a lot of that cockpit automation was
put there to get rid of the flight engineer in one respect and to reduce
pilot workload with routine 'stuff' so as they could concentrate better on
flying the plane ? Oh, and to keep fuel costs down.

All so you can fly to wherever for �25.

Graham