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From: JG on 5 Jun 2010 16:56 On Jun 5, 1:31 pm, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Last time on rec.autos.driving, necromancer > <Zidane's_Last_Red_Card(a)worldofnecromancer_no_spam_no_way.org> said: > > >...Please do get together and go ahead with your boycott of BP > >stations. I'll be sure to patronize the BP stations that you are > >shunning and I will enjoy being able to simply cruise up to the pump, > >get my gas, candy bar, beer and whatever else I need and be on my way > >while you are still waiting in line at the station across the street. > > I *never* have to wait in line at a gas station. I can always cruise > up to a pump, fill my tank, pay, and drive away. On those RARE > occasions when *every* pump is in use, I simply go across the street > to the other gas station and fill up there. > > Thus, even if we had BP stations here (which we don't) I would still > boycott them. Painlessly. As mentioned before Arco==BP. I noticed a few indy brands in the socal area that were competitive with arco and took credit cards.
From: Studemania on 5 Jun 2010 18:42 On Jun 4, 5:16 pm, Nobody important <nob...(a)example.invalid> wrote: > necromancer <Zidane's_Last_Red_Card(a)worldofnecromancer_no_spam_no_way.org> > wrote innews:npli06tef0lh2p6p999ck0n9cfgfb8fd5c(a)4ax.com: > > > ...Please do get together and go ahead with your boycott of BP > > stations. I'll be sure to patronize the BP stations that you are > > shunning and I will enjoy being able to simply cruise up to the pump, > > get my gas, candy bar, beer and whatever else I need and be on my way > > while you are still waiting in line at the station across the street. > > Hmmm... I can't remember the last time I had to wait in line at _any_ gas > station. My cutrate often has a line of one at some pumps. Does that count as a line?
From: Steve Sobol on 5 Jun 2010 20:28 In article <jr5l06t7o0m18vrfmgvvtusg67t973aiqp(a)4ax.com>, scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com says... > I *never* have to wait in line at a gas station. I can always cruise > up to a pump, fill my tank, pay, and drive away. On those RARE > occasions when *every* pump is in use, I simply go across the street > to the other gas station and fill up there. > > Thus, even if we had BP stations here (which we don't) I would still > boycott them. Painlessly. BP purchased Atlantic Richfield in 2000. At every company-owned ARCO station, there are a bunch of stickers and signage containing the BP sunburst logo. Of course, this is the last straw for me. This was just a very convenient excuse to tell my boss I wanted to give my company ARCO card back... see, I've had trouble with their equipment not working at almost every location I use in SoCal, I've been complaining about it for three years, and they've not done anything. The irony is that I used to be a cashier at a BP in Ohio, in the early 90's... and we were empowered to *make minor repairs ourselves* - I was able to change nozzles and fuel filters on all of the pumps, and put a fresh roll of paper in the credit card machine when necessary. They don't do that at ARCO. And having to go in to get a receipt, which I need, can double the amount of time I spend at the gas station. I'd rather go to Shell, pay 10c/gallon more, and be reimbursed... it's worth the inconvenience to not have to deal with BP anymore. -- Steve Sobol, Victorville, California, USA sjsobol(a)JustThe.net
From: Steve Sobol on 5 Jun 2010 20:30 In article <i16l06hi4cjpisdm7td96lac9nhia301fc(a)4ax.com>, scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com says... > > Last time on rec.autos.driving, Steve Sobol <sjsobol(a)JustThe.net> > said: > > >> Hmmm... I can't remember the last time I had to wait in line at _any_ gas > >> station. > > > >The BP-owned ARCO stations out here are always busy because they're > >cheaper than almost everyone else. > > I guess there is a large demographic who a) can barely afford > gasoline, and b) can't get a credit card, so Arco has carved out a > great market niche for themselves. :) Well, that's a rather snarky comment, huh? I have zero problems with the quality of the product - my problems with BP are strictly related to customer service. The gas works as well as anyone else's, so why would I want to pay 10c or, in the case of Chevron, 20c/gallon more? That's just stupid. -- Steve Sobol, Victorville, California, USA sjsobol(a)JustThe.net
From: Daniel W. Rouse Jr. on 5 Jun 2010 20:52
"Steve Sobol" <sjsobol(a)JustThe.net> wrote in message news:MPG.26748b8b89b59f2498996a(a)news.justthe.net... > In article <jr5l06t7o0m18vrfmgvvtusg67t973aiqp(a)4ax.com>, > scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com says... > > >> I *never* have to wait in line at a gas station. I can always cruise >> up to a pump, fill my tank, pay, and drive away. On those RARE >> occasions when *every* pump is in use, I simply go across the street >> to the other gas station and fill up there. >> >> Thus, even if we had BP stations here (which we don't) I would still >> boycott them. Painlessly. > > > BP purchased Atlantic Richfield in 2000. At every company-owned ARCO > station, there are a bunch of stickers and signage containing the BP > sunburst logo. > The oil spill apparently hasn't made that much of an impact since many people still are filling up at the ARCO stations. > Of course, this is the last straw for me. This was just a very > convenient excuse to tell my boss I wanted to give my company ARCO card > back... see, I've had trouble with their equipment not working at almost > every location I use in SoCal, I've been complaining about it for three > years, and they've not done anything. > I'd also rather not purchase gas from an ARCO station due to the severity of the recent oil spill. Oh, and does that still include Thrifty gasoline stations too? I did find a 1997 press release about ARCO being involved with Thrify Oil Company gasoline stations, but I'm not sure if that is still valid today or if the Thifty stations are independent once again. http://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do?categoryId=2012968&contentId=2000937 > The irony is that I used to be a cashier at a BP in Ohio, in the early > 90's... and we were empowered to *make minor repairs ourselves* - I was > able to change nozzles and fuel filters on all of the pumps, and put a > fresh roll of paper in the credit card machine when necessary. > > They don't do that at ARCO. And having to go in to get a receipt, which > I need, can double the amount of time I spend at the gas station. > You didn't need to go in to get a receipt at an ARCO station unless the pay terminal was broken. The usual process was to press the Receipt button on a pay terminal, enter the pump number, and the pay terminal printed the receipt. The other obvious exception would be if a particular station had no pay terminals. > I'd rather go to Shell, pay 10c/gallon more, and be reimbursed... it's > worth the inconvenience to not have to deal with BP anymore. > Even if the ARCO gas may be cheaper, it's also worth noting that using a debit card adds a 45 cents transaction fee, at least that was true the last time I used an ARCO station (before the oil spill). That extra fee seems to offset the savings by at least that much (i.e., that adds 5 cents per gallon when 9 gallons of gasoline have been added to the vehicle's gasoline tank), so in the end the savings only start to occur when paying cash (can also be done at the pay terminals), or when filling up with enough gas to offset the transaction fee. I actually prefer to use Shell gasoline over ARCO (and even over Chevron, Mobil and 76 branded gasolines). Something about the Shell midgrade 89 octane gasoline just seems to keep the vehicle running smoothly, giving the best MPG over the other brands. |