To The BP Boycotters....
in [Cars]
|
Prev: Typical dumb Obama voting Chicago Woman found guilty in fatal'nail polish' crash
Next: Afternoon commute back home yesterday
From: necromancer - ECHM on 7 Jun 2010 11:06 On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 19:31:08 -0700, Steve Sobol <sjsobol(a)JustThe.net> wrote: >In article <npli06tef0lh2p6p999ck0n9cfgfb8fd5c(a)4ax.com>, >Zidane's_Last_Red_Card(a)worldofnecromancer_no_spam_no_way.org says... >> >> ...Please do get together and go ahead with your boycott of BP >> stations. I'll be sure to patronize the BP stations that you are >> shunning and I will enjoy being able to simply cruise up to the pump, >> get my gas, candy bar, beer and whatever else I need and be on my way >> while you are still waiting in line at the station across the street. >> >> > > >You have fun with that. Sadly, I don't get to as the local BP usually is the lowest price and there is generally a line at the pumps. That means that I go to Hugo's* down the street and fill up there. Their price is usually about US$0.05 to US$0.06 higher, but since I usually only take about 5 to 6 gallons, the extra US$0.50 or so is worth it not to wait. * Hugo's = Citgo -- "I... Can't... Drive... FIFTY-FIVE!!!" --Sammy Hagar
From: The Real Bev on 7 Jun 2010 20:17 On 06/07/10 07:49, Scott in SoCal wrote: > Last time on rec.autos.driving, The Real Bev<bashley101(a)gmail.com> > said: > >>> The difference isn't anywhere near that much - more like 3c/gallon >>> IME. >> >>Huh? 3 cents difference between Arco and one of the 'regular' stations? Not >>for quite a while. >> >><http://www.losangelesgasprices.com/index.aspx?s=Y&fuel=A&area=Alhambra&area=Arcadia&area=Pasadena&area=Temple+City&station=ARCO&station=Costco&station=Sam%27s+Club&station=Shell&tme_limit=48&site=LosAngeles&srch=0&list=0> > > That's hardly a reliable source of pricing information. For one thing, > all the data is reported by unpaid volunteers, with no controls or > reviews. Some prices may be current, while others are hours or days > old. And some of the data might be false, contributed either by > clueless amateurs or deliberately by competing gas stations. Be that as it may, it jibes with what I've seen with my very own eyes. >>25 cents a gallon on 17 gallons = what I regard as a significant amount of >>money rather than a few pennies. > > 25 cents a gallon is a ridiculous exaggeration. Either that or you're > comparing an Arco in Santa Ana to a Chevron in Malibu (i.e. Apples to > Oranges). Nope, just driving around Pasadena last Saturday. Arco a few blocks away 2.899; Shell/Standard/Whatever station in the middle of town $3.199. Costco (last time I was there 2 weeks ago) it was 2.879 less the 3% rebate if you use the Amex/Costco card. -- Cheers, Bev """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" "We're from the Government. We're here to help."
From: Brent on 7 Jun 2010 22:54 On 2010-06-07, Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > 25 cents a gallon is a ridiculous exaggeration. Either that or you're > comparing an Arco in Santa Ana to a Chevron in Malibu (i.e. Apples to > Oranges). I've seen variations of up to 40 cents a gallon in just a few miles, between stations of the same brand. I'm talking the distance between crawford and Halsted. (4000 W vs. 800 W)
From: Brent on 8 Jun 2010 11:23 On 2010-06-08, Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Last time on rec.autos.driving, Brent ><tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> said: > >>On 2010-06-07, Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> 25 cents a gallon is a ridiculous exaggeration. Either that or you're >>> comparing an Arco in Santa Ana to a Chevron in Malibu (i.e. Apples to >>> Oranges). >> >>I've seen variations of up to 40 cents a gallon in just a few miles, >>between stations of the same brand. I'm talking the distance between >>crawford and Halsted. (4000 W vs. 800 W) > > Which was my point. You cannot compare prices at gas stations from > different locations. That Arco in the suburbs might actually charge > more than the Shell station in Pilsen. No Arco's around here. > The only valid price comparison is between stations in comparable > locations. I've seen ~15 cents on the same street within a few blocks. Citgo to Citgo. Same street further distance speedway to speedway.
From: The Real Bev on 9 Jun 2010 01:07
On 06/08/10 07:17, Scott in SoCal wrote: > The Real Bev<bashley101(a)gmail.com> said: >>On 06/07/10 07:49, Scott in SoCal wrote: >> >>> The Real Bev<bashley101(a)gmail.com> said: >>> >>>>> The difference isn't anywhere near that much - more like 3c/gallon >>>>> IME. >>>> >>>>Huh? 3 cents difference between Arco and one of the 'regular' stations? Not >>>>for quite a while. >>>> >>>><http://www.losangelesgasprices.com/index.aspx?s=Y&fuel=A&area=Alhambra&area=Arcadia&area=Pasadena&area=Temple+City&station=ARCO&station=Costco&station=Sam%27s+Club&station=Shell&tme_limit=48&site=LosAngeles&srch=0&list=0> >>> >>> That's hardly a reliable source of pricing information. For one thing, >>> all the data is reported by unpaid volunteers, with no controls or >>> reviews. Some prices may be current, while others are hours or days >>> old. And some of the data might be false, contributed either by >>> clueless amateurs or deliberately by competing gas stations. >> >>Be that as it may, it jibes with what I've seen with my very own eyes. > > Once again, casual observations are subject to Confirmation Bias. You > (subconsciously) filter out data that does not support your > preconceived notion, while taking mental note of the data points that > DO support you. Yeahyeahyeah. I've seen regular-price stations with prices NEAR to the Arco's close to them but not below with the exception noted below, which refers to only ONE anomalous Shell station. > You might be surprised at the result you'd get if you did an actual > scientific study. Perhaps, but nobody's paying me to do one of those. >>Nope, just driving around Pasadena last Saturday. Arco a few blocks away >>2.899; Shell/Standard/Whatever station in the middle of town $3.199. > > Heh! You can't even remember the name of the gas station, but you can > remember the exact price of their gasoline? I don't remember it because the brand didn't matter. I can't remember the last time I bought gas at a non-Arco non-Costco non-amazingly-cheap Shell station right off the freeway... Oh yeah, it was up at Big Bear with the truck and I wasn't sure I'd get down to the Costco station so I bought $5 worth at some kind of regular-price station in BB. That would be 2007 or earlier... > Your powers of observation aside, you cannot compare prices from one > neighborhood to another. As noted in previous posts, gas stations in > affluent areas or close to freeways charge more than other stations of > the same brand in other locations. The only valid comparison is two > gas stations in comparable locations, e.g. right across the street > from each other, or equidistant from the same freeway exit. OK, there's one of those across from the other Arco station I use. I don't know its brand either, but I'll try to remember the brand and the price next time I pass. My guess: 20 cents difference. I've never understood why people will pay 20 cents a gallon more for the same thing in the same place. >>Costco >>(last time I was there 2 weeks ago) it was 2.879 less the 3% rebate if you use >>the Amex/Costco card. > > Speaking of Costco gasoline: I used to drive past the one on Grant in > Tucson pretty regularly; the gas station part was right next to the > street and clearly visible. I can't recall a time when that Costco gas > station was NOT completely packed with people waiting to pull up to a > pump. Are the ones in SoCal crowded like that? Yes, unless you go early in the morning (6am to 9:30am). I've also hit one that was near-deserted at 5:50, when the store closed at 6:00. > Even if I save 10c/gallon (the Chevron on Bake Parkway was selling > regular for $2.999 the last time I drove by), it's not worth the > waiting time, nor the aggravation of jockeying for position with a > bunch of MFFYs who are all trying to steal the pump I've been waiting > for. My gas tank holds 15 gallons; $1.50 extra out of a $50 purchase > is a small price to pay for the convenience. A thing I REALLY like about Costco stations: The hoses are long enough to reach over the car with feet to spare so you can pull up to the left side of the pump; a lot of people don't know that so the lines are shorter. Sometimes there's no line while people are lined up on the right sides of the pumps. Just a thought. > Also, last time I checked, Costco does not sell "Top Tier" gasoline, > nor can they. According to them, "Costco cannot currently do this as > we buy from a variety of refiners and distributors around the country > and do not own our own truck terminals where the additives are blended > with the fuel." Now, you may argue about the added value from a Top > Tier gasoline vs. the standard tier fuel that Costco sells, especially > if you drive an old pickup truck, but for me it's an added bonus. What makes it 'top tier' besides price? If you don't need the octane, why pay for it? The '88 Caddy is perfectly happy with Costco/Arco regular. -- Cheers, Bev ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Whatever the correct citation total - five or six - the Deepwater Horizon's record was exemplary, according to MMS officials, who said the rig was never on inspectors' informal "watch list" for problem rigs. In fact, last year MMS awarded the rig an award for its safety history." --AP Article |