From: Steve Sobol on
In article <784d8a65-f699-4559-9e32-7dd891b24e28
@c10g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>, jgrove24(a)hotmail.com says...

> Anyways, I'd boycott Exxon Mobil which screwed AK fishermen and
> basically skated away with a Supreme Court cut
> in damages. And Exxon had to BUY MOBIL in order to get a "clean name"
> for retail stations. How many "Exxons" are left in states like CA ??

A few; not very many. I recall one in Riverside County along I-215 and
one in the West Los Angeles/Beverly Hills/Culver City area.

--
Steve Sobol, Victorville, California, USA
sjsobol(a)JustThe.net
From: bugo on


"The Real Bev" <bashley101(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:hup4sc$2qb$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> On 06/09/10 07:28, Scott in SoCal wrote:
>
>> The Real Bev<bashley101(a)gmail.com> said:
>>
>>>OK, there's one of those across from the other Arco station I use. I
>>>don't
>>>know its brand either, but I'll try to remember the brand and the price
>>>next
>>>time I pass. My guess: 20 cents difference. I've never understood why
>>>people
>>>will pay 20 cents a gallon more for the same thing in the same place.
>>
>> It will be interesting to see if the difference is really that huge.
>
> Don't hold your breath, it may be weeks...
>
>>>> Speaking of Costco gasoline: I used to drive past the one on Grant in
>>>> Tucson pretty regularly; the gas station part was right next to the
>>>> street and clearly visible. I can't recall a time when that Costco gas
>>>> station was NOT completely packed with people waiting to pull up to a
>>>> pump. Are the ones in SoCal crowded like that?
>>>
>>>Yes, unless you go early in the morning (6am to 9:30am). I've also hit
>>>one
>>>that was near-deserted at 5:50, when the store closed at 6:00.
>>
>> That might explain why some people pay 20c/gallon more to avoid
>> waiting. Also, if they're not members of Costco, they don't have that
>> option anyway.
>
> Not my problem. We all make choices, and mine is to be a Costco member
> and to fill up at non-crowded hours. All it takes is a little
> forethought. The membership itself is worth it, the gas is just lagniappe.
>
>>>> Also, last time I checked, Costco does not sell "Top Tier" gasoline,
>>>> nor can they. According to them, "Costco cannot currently do this as
>>>> we buy from a variety of refiners and distributors around the country
>>>> and do not own our own truck terminals where the additives are blended
>>>> with the fuel." Now, you may argue about the added value from a Top
>>>> Tier gasoline vs. the standard tier fuel that Costco sells, especially
>>>> if you drive an old pickup truck, but for me it's an added bonus.
>>>
>>>What makes it 'top tier' besides price?
>>
>> Cleaning additives.
>
> If you clean the crud off your cylinder walls you might then need a ring
> job --
> or worse. Cheap gas is cheaper.
>
>>>The '88 Caddy is perfectly happy with Costco/Arco regular.
>>
>> Does it have a curburetor? :)
>
> No. Fuel injection. I know NOTHING about FI except that it's not a
> cArburetor.

Probably throttle body fuel injection. Caddys might have had multipoint FI
in 1988 but few if any other GM engines used it that early.

From: US 71 on

"Brent" <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote
>>
>> Do you have BP stations? I don't think we have those in SoCal; at least I
>> don't remember seeing one.
>
> Yep. All the old amoco ones.
>

MOST of the old Amoco. If you're talking Chicagoland, most went BP, a few
changed brands, a small handful went independent


From: Steve Sobol on
In article <ri0q06pr480nqo79o208jqjbtn4s8s978g(a)4ax.com>,
scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com says...
>
> Last time on rec.autos.driving, Steve Sobol <sjsobol(a)JustThe.net>
> said:
>
> >> Clearly more data is called for.
> >
> >Right, because I have no clue what I'm talking about.
>
> Ever heard of "Confirmation Bias," Steve? It's very real, and we all
> suffer from it. If you're honest, you'll have to admit the possibility
> that your casual observations of price may have been subject to this
> sort of perceptual filtering.

Sure. Everyone is, including you.

By the way, I didn't have the chance to check near my house, but at
Nisqualli Road x Hesperia Road yesterday evening, 3.09/gal at the
Chevron, 2.87/gal at the Arco. There isn't always a huge difference, but
at this intersection, more often than not, it's at least 10c/gal.


--
Steve Sobol, Victorville, California, USA
sjsobol(a)JustThe.net
From: AZ Nomad on
On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 15:45:54 -0400, necromancer <Zidane's_Last_Red_Card(a)worldofnecromancer_no_spam_no_way.org> wrote:
>...Please do get together and go ahead with your boycott of BP
>stations. I'll be sure to patronize the BP stations that you are

The only person you'll hurt with such a tactic is the individual
station owner. It won't affect BP one bit. The only way you can
avoid buying BP gas is to stop buying gas altogether. It's a
commodity item and all sources are pooled together.