From: Ashton Crusher on
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:48:40 -0500, "C. E. White"
<cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote:

>
>"Ed Maier" <evmaiertakethisout(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:hlu5is$uvm$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>
>>> Read Kimberley A. Strassel's article in this weekend's Wall Street
>>> Journal.
>>>
>>> Seems the whole flap has indeed been concocted by the owners of
>>> Government
>>> Motors, and now it's backfiring on them.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Here's a link to Strassel's article:
>> http://online.wsj.com/article/potomac_watch.html
>>
>> Eddie
>
>Can you summarize the article. I don't subscribe, so I could only see
>the teaser. Sounds like another Government scandal in the making.
>
>Ed
>


It's an opinion piece without a shred of evidence for it's
allegations. A typical right wing hit piece aimed at undermining the
Obama Administration. The WSJ has no credibility anymore.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:26:54 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote:

>>And if none of the things I've said above happen, I'm going to turn my
>>back on them just the same as I have GM.
>>
>>so there.
>>
>>
>
> Latest news is the Toyota Memo where they all pat themselves on the back
> for talking their way out of a recall (which has now backfired) and saving
> $100 million in the process. When Ford allegedly did that with the Pinto
> you Toyota fan boys were all over Ford for it, where's your condemnation
> for Toyota?

Look up Ford Automatic Transmission Recall. 14M vehicles. Ford printed 14M
stickers for the dash that said "This vehicle may go from Park to Reverse
at any time without warning."

My roomate stuck his to our refrigerator.



From: AZ Nomad on
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:56:00 -0500, Hachiroku ?$B%O%A%m%/ <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:26:54 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote:

>>>And if none of the things I've said above happen, I'm going to turn my
>>>back on them just the same as I have GM.
>>>
>>>so there.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Latest news is the Toyota Memo where they all pat themselves on the back
>> for talking their way out of a recall (which has now backfired) and saving
>> $100 million in the process. When Ford allegedly did that with the Pinto
>> you Toyota fan boys were all over Ford for it, where's your condemnation
>> for Toyota?

>Look up Ford Automatic Transmission Recall. 14M vehicles. Ford printed 14M
>stickers for the dash that said "This vehicle may go from Park to Reverse
>at any time without warning."

>My roomate stuck his to our refrigerator.

Reminds me of the VW solution to cars that burned oil: a "check oil"
sticker around the fuel filler.
From: Ashton Crusher on
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:56:00 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:26:54 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote:
>
>>>And if none of the things I've said above happen, I'm going to turn my
>>>back on them just the same as I have GM.
>>>
>>>so there.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Latest news is the Toyota Memo where they all pat themselves on the back
>> for talking their way out of a recall (which has now backfired) and saving
>> $100 million in the process. When Ford allegedly did that with the Pinto
>> you Toyota fan boys were all over Ford for it, where's your condemnation
>> for Toyota?
>
>Look up Ford Automatic Transmission Recall. 14M vehicles. Ford printed 14M
>stickers for the dash that said "This vehicle may go from Park to Reverse
>at any time without warning."
>
>My roomate stuck his to our refrigerator.
>
>


I see you avoided answering the question.
From: AZ Nomad on
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:44:31 -0500, C. E. White <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote:
>You seem to dismiss any and all complaints about Toyota
>sudden/unintended acceleration as driver error, while at the same time
>you seem to claim that all similar complaints against Fords are
>completely factual. How do you see that as reasonable?

There isn't nor has there every been a toyota with an engine remotely
as strong as the brakes. If you stomp on the correct pedal and the
brakes have been maintained, the car will stop.