From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:32:41 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:48:40 -0500, "C. E. White"
> <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
>>"Ed Maier" <evmaiertakethisout(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:hlu5is$uvm$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>>>> Read Kimberley A. Strassel's article in this weekend's Wall Street
>>>> Journal.
>>>>
>>>> Seems the whole flap has indeed been concocted by the owners of
>>>> Government
>>>> Motors, and now it's backfiring on them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Here's a link to Strassel's article:
>>> http://online.wsj.com/article/potomac_watch.html
>>>
>>> Eddie
>>
>>Can you summarize the article. I don't subscribe, so I could only see the
>>teaser. Sounds like another Government scandal in the making.
>>
>>Ed
>>
>>
>
> It's an opinion piece without a shred of evidence for it's allegations. A
> typical right wing hit piece aimed at undermining the Obama
> Administration. The WSJ has no credibility anymore.

So far, EVERYTHING about Toyota is an 'opinion piece' without anything
pointing one way or the other.



From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:03:29 -0600, Bob Cooper wrote:

>> Some medling is justified, even necessary ( some level of safety
>> standards for instance), but all to often politicians try to
>> micro-adjust the economy to buy votes. It rarely works out well.
>>
> The biggest meddler here is the press - including her - and Toyota owners
> who want the issues resolved.
> And most of the "pressure" is coming from Toyota owners. The conspiracy
> wackos and fanboys are in another category.

I guess you didn't see where I said if Toyota comes up with a mea culpa,
and doesn't do something about it then it's time to go shopping for
another car.

At least one that's closer than 2,500 miles away.



From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 22:33:40 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:56:00 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:26:54 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote:
>>
>>>>And if none of the things I've said above happen, I'm going to turn my
>>>>back on them just the same as I have GM.
>>>>
>>>>so there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Latest news is the Toyota Memo where they all pat themselves on the
>>> back for talking their way out of a recall (which has now backfired)
>>> and saving $100 million in the process. When Ford allegedly did that
>>> with the Pinto you Toyota fan boys were all over Ford for it, where's
>>> your condemnation for Toyota?
>>
>>Look up Ford Automatic Transmission Recall. 14M vehicles. Ford printed
>>14M stickers for the dash that said "This vehicle may go from Park to
>>Reverse at any time without warning."
>>
>>My roomate stuck his to our refrigerator.
>>
>>
>>
>
> I see you avoided answering the question.

I'm biding my time. The Ford thing is a Done Deal. I want to see if Toyota
starts backpedaling...

and if I get a recall on my Scion...

Here's a surprise for you all...my '05 Scion is NOT as well made as my
previous Toyotas. Don't breath on the sheet metal...



From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:56:43 +0000, Clive wrote:

>> For a Ford with factory cruise
>>since at least in the early 90s the cruise has the following deactivation
>>modes - the brake pedal switch (incorporated with the brake light
>>switch), the off switch on steering wheel, a function that turns off the
>>cruise control if the vehicles speed drops more than a few mph below the
>>set point, and that brake line switch. The brake line switch is a
>>normally closed switch that is opened by brake pressure. It is not just
>>an indicator, it physically cuts the power feed to the cruise control. No
>>power, not cruise control activation.
> My Toyota's cruise control can either be switched of at the steering wheel
> or by just touching either the brake or clutch peddles.


What year is it?

One thing I've noticed, and I don't like, is that it doesn't self cancel
once you've gone below ~35 MPH like the told ones did. If you had it set
for 70MPH on the highway, (er, Motorway...) and go into town, if you were
to hit the lever accidently, it's off to the races. I wonder how many
incidents of UA were caused by this?


From: Ashton Crusher on
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:53:47 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:32:41 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:48:40 -0500, "C. E. White"
>> <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Ed Maier" <evmaiertakethisout(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:hlu5is$uvm$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>>>> Read Kimberley A. Strassel's article in this weekend's Wall Street
>>>>> Journal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems the whole flap has indeed been concocted by the owners of
>>>>> Government
>>>>> Motors, and now it's backfiring on them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Here's a link to Strassel's article:
>>>> http://online.wsj.com/article/potomac_watch.html
>>>>
>>>> Eddie
>>>
>>>Can you summarize the article. I don't subscribe, so I could only see the
>>>teaser. Sounds like another Government scandal in the making.
>>>
>>>Ed
>>>
>>>
>>
>> It's an opinion piece without a shred of evidence for it's allegations. A
>> typical right wing hit piece aimed at undermining the Obama
>> Administration. The WSJ has no credibility anymore.
>
>So far, EVERYTHING about Toyota is an 'opinion piece' without anything
>pointing one way or the other.
>
>

Tell that to all the dead Toyota victims.