Toyota Corolla May Be Recalled over Steering Problem
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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 18 Feb 2010 19:17 On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:34:57 -0800, jim beam wrote: >> OK, then we have NO deaths confirmed as being due to a stuck gas pedal. >> >> What a witch-hunt. >> >> > you should be able to recover the last 30 seconds of data from the engine > computer - that should tell you speed, throttle position, etc. and whether > throttle position stayed fixed. Thank you. There are some thinking people here... (God, Jim, ever think I'd be patting you on the back? ;) )
From: Tegger on 18 Feb 2010 19:37 nm5k(a)wt.net wrote in news:8830dec9-b969-4360-947d-73506a456668(a)q21g2000yqm.googlegroups.com: > Myself, I think most of the > problem is there is likely too much assist at highway speeds, and > it needs to be toned down a bit. There is NO assist at highway speeds. Assist is NOT NEEDED at highway speeds. Assist picks up at speeds where you might actually have to crank the wheel around with some authority, like at 10mph around a left-hand turn, or when maneuvering into a parking space. This whole matter is ludicrously insane, a bizarre Alice-In-Wonderland nut-fest; powered, I suspect, by the tort bar, and by the unions (who hate Toyota with the sort of red-haze death-lust that Ted Bundy must have felt for his victims). ANYbody who knows the SLIGHTEST thing about ANY modern power-assisted steering system cannot help but be appalled by the mystical "evil spirits" nonsense surrounding this current craze. I am not quite certain WHY this is happening, but I AM quite certain that it is /wholly/ without foundation. -- Tegger
From: Clive on 18 Feb 2010 19:45 In message <hlkl0l$m9s$7(a)news.eternal-september.org>, =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> writes >Ever driven a car with electrically enhanced steering? > >My bet is for one it's the first Corolla the complainers have ever owned, >which takes some getting used to all by itself if you've never owned a >Corolla, and the electrically assisted PS, that is a different aniimal all >of it's own. I own two cars with power steering an 02 Nissan Almera and an 09 Toyota Auris. The Nissan has hydraulic power steering, the Toyota has Electric power steering. Personally I can't tell the difference. I can only assume that the American products are somehow inferior. -- Clive
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 18 Feb 2010 20:05 On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 00:45:41 +0000, Clive wrote: > In message <hlkl0l$m9s$7(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> writes >>Ever driven a car with electrically enhanced steering? >> >>My bet is for one it's the first Corolla the complainers have ever owned, >>which takes some getting used to all by itself if you've never owned a >>Corolla, and the electrically assisted PS, that is a different aniimal >>all of it's own. > I own two cars with power steering an 02 Nissan Almera and an 09 Toyota > Auris. The Nissan has hydraulic power steering, the Toyota has Electric > power steering. Personally I can't tell the difference. I can only > assume that the American products are somehow inferior. For people that aren't used to Corollas the steering can be daunting. It's really, really tight, even in the days before rack and pinion. It is very easy to make a Corolla sway back and forth if you're not used to the tightness of the steering. Since my first 4 cars were Toyotas, I was used to the steering right from the start. Someone used to a more drifty steering system (like Chryslers) might think there's something wrong, but they're just not used to the tightness. You have an Auris...looks kind of like a cross between a Matrix and a Yaris...I'd bet the steering is fairly tight in that, too.
From: Clive on 18 Feb 2010 20:23
In message <hlko4u$334$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> writes >Someone used to a more drifty steering system (like Chryslers) might think >there's something wrong, but they're just not used to the tightness. You >have an Auris...looks kind of like a cross between a Matrix and a >Yaris...I'd bet the steering is fairly tight in that, too. If you mean ,Sharp, or Precise then yes, it's typical Rack and Pinion steering. (As opposed to Recirculating Ball, spongy and imprecise.) If you mean hard to turn, then no. -- Clive |