Toyota Throttle Electronics Easily Confused
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From: C. E. White on 25 Feb 2010 10:52 "jim beam" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:ksWdnXsZp4N7GhvWnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... > double-standard bullshit. frod bribed the entire congress into > accepting a lie about tires being at fault for a fundamentally > flawed vehicle design. where the heck were all you guys then? You have to quit repeating this lie. Explorers were no more "fundamentally flawed" than other mid sized SUVs from the 1990's. As I have pointed out to you multiple times, the accident rates, injury rates, rollover rates, etc. for Explorers were actually better than for most competitive vehciels and far better than for 4Runners from that period. Explorers actually had much lower injury rates that "Average" vehciles in that time period. The facts are out there. You prefer to ignore those and it makes you look like a lair. Trying to deflect attention from the Toyota problems by lying is a sad tactic. Ed
From: C. E. White on 25 Feb 2010 10:55 The important question is - who is funding Dr. Gilbert's "research? My understanding is that it is funded by trail lawyers. Trail lawyers don't care about facts or truth, except as they can be twisted to suit their purposes. They have no problems at all misrepresenting the facts in an attempt to extort moeny from corporations (and of course, eventually from "us"). Ed
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 25 Feb 2010 10:58 "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message news:hm66i9$u0a$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > The important question is - who is funding Dr. Gilbert's "research? My > understanding is that it is funded by trail lawyers. Trail lawyers don't > care about facts or truth, except as they can be twisted to suit their > purposes. They have no problems at all misrepresenting the facts in an > attempt to extort moeny from corporations (and of course, eventually from > "us"). > > Ed In 40+ years of hiking, I have never found the need for a trail lawyer.
From: Clive on 25 Feb 2010 11:20 In message <QuidnRjN_4LnlRvWnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d(a)linkline.com>, Uncle_vito <uncle_vito2002(a)yahoo.com> writes >Made in Japan only applies to the accelerator fix. If it is a software >problem, all bets are off. Could be in cars no matter where made since they >do noit know the cause. How can they say which cars are not affected? I live in England and I have had a recall for my car which was made in Nottingham England, I understand mot of the parts are locally sourced so that implies that the design is faulty. -- Mr Coleman
From: MLD on 25 Feb 2010 11:41
"Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted(a)comcast.net> wrote in message news:31uco5pm34c0aupnah8d0lsh3g3ttkq4kt(a)4ax.com... > On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:22:58 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <invalid(a)invalid.inv> > wrote: > >> On Feb 23, 7:47 pm, john <johngd...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> The floor mats and sticking pedal accounts for only 30% of the >>> problems. The true cause of sudden acceleration is still not known so >>> no real solution is possible. IMO it's the electronics. >> >> > --Vic > <SNIP> <SNIP> My take on the sudden, uncontrolled acceleration is that it's root cause is tucked away somewhere in the electronics. Has anyone ever got involved in dealing with RFI (Radio Frequency Interference)? I've dealt with two interesting cases where RFI caused a significant problem in aircraft. One, complete loss of engine power. Cause was a radar signal that triggered the closing of a fuel Shut-Off Valve. Happened every time an aircraft (helicopter) flew past a particular radar station. The second, also a helicopter, two engines: Every time the pilot pushed the transmit button on his high frequency radio one engine rolled all the way back to its Idle setting--it recovered as soon as he released the button. The cause of both incidents was improper shielding of the aircraft wiring harnesses. The aircraft manufacturer was sloppy in his design--improved shielding fixed both problems. Cars now are more and more dependent on electronics and somehow can't shake the feeling that spurious signals are causing some of these unexplained incidents. As a side note; military electronics are subjected to rigid testing; bombarded with all kinds of RFI signals to determine if there is any undesirable behavior. I doubt if the automotive industry comes anywhere close to that kind of testing or evaluation. MLD |