From: dsi1 on
Nate Nagel wrote:
> Ashton Crusher wrote:
>> After the news came out about the unintended acceleration problem that
>> killed the cop and his family one of the ladies in my office said she
>> was ruling out buying a Highlander as a result. She wants to get a
>> bigger car for her family and was looking at Highlanders but not
>> anymore. Frankly I was amazed that something like this would so
>> quickly turn off a buyer.
>
> I'm not... now I'm not a target buyer for a Prius, I always wondered
> about cramming that much electronics into a car and how good an idea it
> was to have that much fly by wire stuff, recent events have only made it
> less likely for me to buy one. I like nice direct connections between
> my feet and the throttle, brakes, clutch etc. - maybe not the most
> efficient but definitely the safest.

In a short while, the accelerator will all be by wire, mostly because
we'll be driving electric. Maybe braking too. I'm not so sure about the
steering because there's no compelling reason to go that route. You can
say goodbye to the clutch pedal. :-(

>
> nate
>
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:33:31 +0000, Tegger wrote:

> tnom(a)mucks.net wrote in news:jplvg55p85d43qe7j8l4ajgmq4ejuh7ope(a)4ax.com:
>
>
>>>>And that's likely just the sort of thing Toyota is trying to prevent by
>>>>jumping all over the issue the way they are.
>>>
>>>In the end folks will remember the lengths that Toyota went to to fix it
>>>more than the initial problem.
>>>Something the domestics never learned.
>>
>> You mean the length that Toyota went to ignore the problem until the
>> news media couldn't ignore it any longer?
>>
>> You really think the gas pedal is the true fix? Just as the floor mat
>> was a diversion, so is the gas pedal.
>>
>>
>
>
> Hey, I just had a Jimmy Neutron-type Brain Blast! Just remove the gas
> pedal from the vehicle entirely. With only a brake pedal to push, it will
> be next to impossible to get yourself into an accident. Problem solved!
>
> My idea is so brilliant I'll have to consider patenting it.

I still think the whole problem is the nut behind the steering wheel.

Toyota is not one to take things lightly. They probably determined the
cause is Operator Error, and are now going to make changes to protect
themselves from us...



From: hls on

"Ashton Crusher" <demi(a)moore.net> wrote in message
news:shjtg5p8te53o9huh6a0fnq16mmmhmjit7(a)4ax.com...
> After the news came out about the unintended acceleration problem that
> killed the cop and his family one of the ladies in my office said she
> was ruling out buying a Highlander as a result. She wants to get a
> bigger car for her family and was looking at Highlanders but not
> anymore. Frankly I was amazed that something like this would so
> quickly turn off a buyer.

Overreaction. This is really an "un-problem". Toyota is going the
second mile to try to eliminate this accelerator pedal hanging in an
overly long carpet.

It ISNT a quality issue, but rather a perceived safety hazard which is
being dealt with quickly.

From: Tegger on
=?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
wrote in news:pan.2009.11.27.23.09.23.347980(a)e86.GTS:

> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:33:31 +0000, Tegger wrote:
>

>>
>> Hey, I just had a Jimmy Neutron-type Brain Blast! Just remove the gas
>> pedal from the vehicle entirely. With only a brake pedal to push, it
>> will be next to impossible to get yourself into an accident. Problem
>> solved!
>>
>> My idea is so brilliant I'll have to consider patenting it.
>
>
> I still think the whole problem is the nut behind the steering wheel.



Oh, the "loose nut" theory again, huh?

How about we drill the nut and safety-wire it, like on an old race car? The
nut might complain a bit, especially during the drilling part. But hey,
it's for his own good, right?




--
Tegger

From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:20:40 +0000, Tegger wrote:

> =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote
> in news:pan.2009.11.27.23.09.23.347980(a)e86.GTS:
>
>> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:33:31 +0000, Tegger wrote:
>>
>>
>
>>> Hey, I just had a Jimmy Neutron-type Brain Blast! Just remove the gas
>>> pedal from the vehicle entirely. With only a brake pedal to push, it
>>> will be next to impossible to get yourself into an accident. Problem
>>> solved!
>>>
>>> My idea is so brilliant I'll have to consider patenting it.
>>
>>
>> I still think the whole problem is the nut behind the steering wheel.
>
>
>
> Oh, the "loose nut" theory again, huh?
>
> How about we drill the nut and safety-wire it, like on an old race car?
> The nut might complain a bit, especially during the drilling part. But
> hey, it's for his own good, right?

This could help solve the problem...

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/Mac2311/Racedagje.jpg