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From: john on 21 May 2010 22:39 Another computer induced problem. "Toyota Motor Corp. recalled about 3,800 Lexus LS sedans in the United States Friday to repair a problem with the steering system. The recall affects late 2009 and certain 2010 model year Lexus LS 460 and LS 600h L vehicles to address an issue with the steering system, in which the steering wheel can become off-centered. Toyota plans to replace the steering computer, which is expected to take less than one hour, depending on dealer workload. To avoid the condition, Toyota said not to quickly turn the steering wheel in the opposite direction, especially if the steering wheel was turned to the full lock position." Full article: From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100521/AUTO01/5210421/1148/Toyota-recalls-3-800-Lexus-LS-sedans-for-steering-fix#ixzz0ocdZJvEe
From: jim beam on 21 May 2010 23:03 On 05/21/2010 07:39 PM, john wrote: > Another computer induced problem. > > "Toyota Motor Corp. recalled about 3,800 Lexus LS sedans in the United > States Friday to repair a problem with the steering system. > > The recall affects late 2009 and certain 2010 model year Lexus LS 460 > and LS 600h L vehicles to address an issue with the steering system, > in which the steering wheel can become off-centered. > > Toyota plans to replace the steering computer, which is expected to > take less than one hour, depending on dealer workload. > > To avoid the condition, Toyota said not to quickly turn the steering > wheel in the opposite direction, especially if the steering wheel was > turned to the full lock position." > > Full article: > From The Detroit News: > http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100521/AUTO01/5210421/1148/Toyota-recalls-3-800-Lexus-LS-sedans-for-steering-fix#ixzz0ocdZJvEe you need to make your anti-toyota propaganda a little more technically accurate if you want it to be believed. the "computer" simply senses torque and tells the power assist motor how much to help with the turning effort. all the mechanical linkages remain in place and at the driver's control and the wheel cannot be physically off-centered. -- nomina rutrum rutrum
From: Don Stauffer on 22 May 2010 09:53 Although throttle-by-wire has bothered me a bit, since I have had sticking throttles on three of my cars in the good old days, I figured I could handle any problem. Drive/steer-by-wire is something else. Unless they build the systems with avionics reliability standards (triple or quad redundancy, dissimilar redundancy, super high spec components, etc) I don't think steer-by-wire is a very good idea. john wrote: > Another computer induced problem. > > "Toyota Motor Corp. recalled about 3,800 Lexus LS sedans in the United > States Friday to repair a problem with the steering system. > > The recall affects late 2009 and certain 2010 model year Lexus LS 460 > and LS 600h L vehicles to address an issue with the steering system, > in which the steering wheel can become off-centered. > > Toyota plans to replace the steering computer, which is expected to > take less than one hour, depending on dealer workload. > > To avoid the condition, Toyota said not to quickly turn the steering > wheel in the opposite direction, especially if the steering wheel was > turned to the full lock position." > > Full article: > From The Detroit News: > http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100521/AUTO01/5210421/1148/Toyota-recalls-3-800-Lexus-LS-sedans-for-steering-fix#ixzz0ocdZJvEe
From: jim beam on 22 May 2010 10:06 On 05/22/2010 06:53 AM, Don Stauffer wrote: > Although throttle-by-wire has bothered me a bit, since I have had > sticking throttles on three of my cars in the good old days, I figured I > could handle any problem. > > Drive/steer-by-wire is something else. Unless they build the systems > with avionics reliability standards (triple or quad redundancy, > dissimilar redundancy, super high spec components, etc) I don't think > steer-by-wire is a very good idea. it's not "fly by wire" steering, so don't get suckered by the propaganda. it's simply electric [as opposed to hydraulic] power assist, with a variable power function based on steering wheel torque. if the system fails, you still have mechanical non-assisted steering. > > john wrote: >> Another computer induced problem. >> >> "Toyota Motor Corp. recalled about 3,800 Lexus LS sedans in the United >> States Friday to repair a problem with the steering system. >> >> The recall affects late 2009 and certain 2010 model year Lexus LS 460 >> and LS 600h L vehicles to address an issue with the steering system, >> in which the steering wheel can become off-centered. >> >> Toyota plans to replace the steering computer, which is expected to >> take less than one hour, depending on dealer workload. >> >> To avoid the condition, Toyota said not to quickly turn the steering >> wheel in the opposite direction, especially if the steering wheel was >> turned to the full lock position." >> >> Full article: >> From The Detroit News: >> http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100521/AUTO01/5210421/1148/Toyota-recalls-3-800-Lexus-LS-sedans-for-steering-fix#ixzz0ocdZJvEe >> -- nomina rutrum rutrum
From: Bill Yanaire, ESQ on 24 May 2010 16:10
If only you could afford to purchase a Toyota. Oh well. Keep spare change in your pocket when you take the bus. |