Toyota's electronic throttle, and..
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From: chuckcar on 26 Mar 2010 18:30 "Cameo" <cameo(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in news:hoj1ne$53q$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: > "chuckcar" <chuck(a)nil.car> wrote in message > news:Xns9D4758238493chuck(a)127.0.0.1... >> Ed White <ce.white3(a)gmail.com> wrote in >> What you're talking about here is talking about is on the auto shows >> fixup shows such as they have on SPEED TV. You're not actually >> erasing the EPROM and then putting new machine language into it >> replacing what was >> originally there. You're changing variables such as valve timing and >> so >> on. This difference may only be apparent to people who *have* written >> computer programs like myself. It can of course damage an vehicle >> just as removing a rev limiter or boosting the engine with too much >> nitrous will do. Nothing more. > > You mean that such variables are in volatile memory and thus > rewritable? > I never said non-volatile, static or ram made from capacitors. I just said RAM. -- (setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )
From: chuckcar on 26 Mar 2010 18:30 Tegger <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in news:Xns9D474ED1BCD25tegger(a)208.90.168.18: > chuckcar <chuck(a)nil.car> wrote in news:Xns9D474BA4D988chuck(a)127.0.0.1: > >> Tegger <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in >> news:Xns9D46DE616F236tegger(a)208.90.168.18: > >>> >>> but nobody's alleging tampering. Instead the allegations are >>> of defects from the factory, and that's where the silliness comes >>> in. >>> >> Perhaps, I'll reserve my judgement on that until I see some real >> conclusions in this Toyota mess. It could easily be minor bugs in the >> actual ROMS however. Extremely doubtful, but always a possibility. >> >> > > > > Why do you keep setting a Followup to rec.autos.tech? Because I only read that group. > I only > crossposted to three groups, all of which have had extensive > discussions regarding this matter, and all which I thought would > benefit from a discussion of the article I originally referenced (and > which only Ed White seems to have actually read). > To further explain, my newservers are touchy about posting to numerous groups without using a follow-up header, so I frequently error on the side of caution. However being only three groups, I will desist if you prefer. -- (setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )
From: Tegger on 26 Mar 2010 20:11 chuckcar <chuck(a)nil.car> wrote in news:Xns9D47A485FCB3Achuck(a)127.0.0.1: > Tegger <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in > news:Xns9D474ED1BCD25tegger(a)208.90.168.18: > >> >> Why do you keep setting a Followup to rec.autos.tech? > > Because I only read that group. That's fair. But I read all three. > >> I only >> crossposted to three groups, all of which have had extensive >> discussions regarding this matter, and all which I thought would >> benefit from a discussion of the article I originally referenced (and >> which only Ed White seems to have actually read). >> > To further explain, my newservers are touchy about posting to numerous > groups without using a follow-up header, so I frequently error on the > side of caution. Mine appears to be touchy as well. Not all my replies always appear in all three groups. I've just asked my admin. > However being only three groups, I will desist if you > prefer. > The three groups I crossposted to all have had discussions regarding the throttle issue. I thought I had relevant information to pass on, and also thought the expected subsequent discussion might prove entertaining and enlightening for all, especially if it flushed out some new info that had not been heretofore posted. If crossposting is removed, threads that develop in the various groups become independent, none of them knowing what happened in the other groups. Having said that, it appears that most of the discussion has ended up being in rec.autos.tech, so maybe I shouldn't have bothered crossposting in the first place... -- Tegger
From: Tegger on 26 Mar 2010 20:21 My touchy news server does not seem to want to propagate my crossposted reply properly. I therefore repost it to this group only, so that chuckcar may be assured of seeing it: -------- chuckcar <chuck(a)nil.car> wrote in news:Xns9D47A485FCB3Achuck(a)127.0.0.1: > Tegger <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in > news:Xns9D474ED1BCD25tegger(a)208.90.168.18: > >> >> Why do you keep setting a Followup to rec.autos.tech? > > Because I only read that group. That's fair. But I read all three. > >> I only >> crossposted to three groups, all of which have had extensive >> discussions regarding this matter, and all which I thought would >> benefit from a discussion of the article I originally referenced (and >> which only Ed White seems to have actually read). >> > To further explain, my newservers are touchy about posting to numerous > groups without using a follow-up header, so I frequently error on the > side of caution. Mine appears to be touchy as well. Not all my replies always appear in all three groups. I've just asked my admin. > However being only three groups, I will desist if you > prefer. > The three groups I crossposted to all have had discussions regarding the throttle issue. I thought I had relevant information to pass on, and also thought the expected subsequent discussion might prove entertaining and enlightening for all, especially if it flushed out some new info that had not been heretofore posted. If crossposting is removed, threads that develop in the various groups become independent, none of them knowing what happened in the other groups. Having said that, it appears that most of the discussion has ended up being in rec.autos.tech, so maybe I shouldn't have bothered crossposting in the first place... -- Tegger
From: cuhulin on 26 Mar 2010 22:05
Wait untill they start putting electronic throttles on motorcycles and motorscooters and riding lawnmowers and snowmobiles. cuhulin |