From: Tegger on
"C. E. White" <cewhite3remove(a)> wrote in

> rsuits/2010/INVMTY-012010-1234.pdf
> Given the state of journalism today, what you read in the paper is
> about as credible as a Mike Hunter post.

OK, so I was wrong. FORTY-TWO open investigations, not FORTY. I was off by

And I limited myself to the term, "automakers", which may or may not have
been what the article I read actually said. In actual fact the term should
have been, "motor vehicle manufacturers".

Except that you've actually made my point /stronger/ with your link.

I originally said:
3 cover Toyota.
37 cover other automakers.

According to your link, it should actually be:
3 cover Toyota.
39 cover other motor vehicle manufacturers.


From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:18:27 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote:

> Get real, your opinion that hundreds of people were killed by faulty Ford
> transmissions is not true and your post is just another of the YABUT
> excuses used to change the subject away from Toyota 5.4 million world wide
> recall.

My *OPINION* ?!?!?!?!


From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:22:24 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote:

> Perhaps you should have said Ford tyrannies that were not properly placed
> in park by their owners, who also failed to set the PARKING brakes


Taking Joe's place, are we?

Even Ford admitted the transmissions could jump out of park at any time.

The 'recalled' the cars by issuing stickers. Wow.

I think it was THE BIGGEST and the most dangerous recall of all time, and
it was 'fixed' with a sticker for the dashboard.

From: Ashton Crusher on
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 23:59:05 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>

>On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:49:52 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote:
>> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:26:18 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>>>On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:36:56 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:00:00 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:55:59 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote:
>>>>>> If you did, than I could not drift away, even if you did not properly
>>>>>> engage the shifter into the PARK position, as was the actual cause.
>>>>>How could you even forget about the Ford recall for transmissions? They
>>>>>talked it to death almost as much as the currect Toyota recall.
>>>>>However, 'talked to death' is not a good phrase to use. Hundreds were
>>>>>killed and thousands injured thanks to Ford NOT fixing the
>>>>>transmissions, but issuing a sticker for the dash instead.
>>>>>You want to make such a big deal about the Toyota recall. So far, I
>>>>>don't think anyone has died yet from the sticking pedal, and Toyota is
>>>>>fixing the problem.
>>>> 2500 accidents, 12 deaths, or something like that.
>>>Kinda pales compared with over 300 deaths and thousands of injuries for a
>>>transmission Ford didn't want to (and DIDN'T) fix...
>> Do you think that makes the 12 dead people feel any better?
>Not at all. But Toyota is fixing the problem. Wonder if they could have
>gotten away with printing 2.3 million stickers...

There's a big difference between cars that can't be controlled while
you are driving them and cars that pop out of park. The Ford
transmission problem was no more dangerous then all the cars that were
produced for YEARS with automatic transmissions that didn't even have
a PARK position but required you to put the emergency brake on.
From: cuhulin on
Toyota owners will start receiving mails next week, Prius cars.About
7,000 Camrys, brake fluid leaks,, recalling some Corollas,, unsteady
I just now saw and heard on 5:00 PM local tv news.