Toyota struggles to stop runaway crisis
in [Technical]
|
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 9 Feb 2010 20:39 On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:10:14 -0600, cuhulin wrote: > Toyota owners will start receiving mails next week, Prius cars.About 7,000 > Camrys, brake fluid leaks,, recalling some Corollas,, unsteady steering. > I just now saw and heard on 5:00 PM local tv news. cuhulin I chalk that up to twitchy driver's who have never driven a Corolla before. They have TOUCHY steering! Compare that to your drifting Dodge product (don't go off...I have had 3 Chrysler minivans and an LHS. The LHS steering was beautiful. The minivans...)
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 9 Feb 2010 20:40 On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:21:37 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: > On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 23:59:05 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > >>On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:49:52 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:26:18 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:36:56 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:00:00 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:55:59 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> If you did, than I could not drift away, even if you did not >>>>>>> properly engage the shifter into the PARK position, as was the >>>>>>> actual cause. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>YABUT! >>>>>> >>>>>>How could you even forget about the Ford recall for transmissions? >>>>>>They talked it to death almost as much as the currect Toyota recall. >>>>>> >>>>>>However, 'talked to death' is not a good phrase to use. Hundreds were >>>>>>killed and thousands injured thanks to Ford NOT fixing the >>>>>>transmissions, but issuing a sticker for the dash instead. >>>>>> >>>>>>You want to make such a big deal about the Toyota recall. So far, I >>>>>>don't think anyone has died yet from the sticking pedal, and Toyota >>>>>>is fixing the problem. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2500 accidents, 12 deaths, or something like that. >>>> >>>>Kinda pales compared with over 300 deaths and thousands of injuries for >>>>a transmission Ford didn't want to (and DIDN'T) fix... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Do you think that makes the 12 dead people feel any better? >> >>Not at all. But Toyota is fixing the problem. Wonder if they could have >>gotten away with printing 2.3 million stickers... >> >> >> > There's a big difference between cars that can't be controlled while you > are driving them and cars that pop out of park. The Ford transmission > problem was no more dangerous then all the cars that were produced for > YEARS with automatic transmissions that didn't even have a PARK position > but required you to put the emergency brake on. Except that with the PARK position people stopped using the EB and over 300 were killed...
From: cuhulin on 9 Feb 2010 21:43 My sister owns a Honda whatever it is van.Have you ever sat in a minivan before? No room at all in there, you can't stretch out. I don't care that much for little minivans.I like BIG LONG TALL full size vans, like my 1978 Dodge van and my 1983 Dodge van.I can, and I have before, hauled fourteen feet long boards in my vans and with both of the rear doors closed too.I have hauled four feet by eight feet sheets of plywood in both of my vans too.I like Lots of cargo/hauling room in my vans. cuhulin
From: Ashton Crusher on 9 Feb 2010 23:35 On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:40:41 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:21:37 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: > >> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 23:59:05 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >> >>>On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:49:52 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:26:18 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:36:56 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:00:00 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:55:59 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you did, than I could not drift away, even if you did not >>>>>>>> properly engage the shifter into the PARK position, as was the >>>>>>>> actual cause. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>YABUT! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>How could you even forget about the Ford recall for transmissions? >>>>>>>They talked it to death almost as much as the currect Toyota recall. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>However, 'talked to death' is not a good phrase to use. Hundreds were >>>>>>>killed and thousands injured thanks to Ford NOT fixing the >>>>>>>transmissions, but issuing a sticker for the dash instead. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>You want to make such a big deal about the Toyota recall. So far, I >>>>>>>don't think anyone has died yet from the sticking pedal, and Toyota >>>>>>>is fixing the problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2500 accidents, 12 deaths, or something like that. >>>>> >>>>>Kinda pales compared with over 300 deaths and thousands of injuries for >>>>>a transmission Ford didn't want to (and DIDN'T) fix... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Do you think that makes the 12 dead people feel any better? >>> >>>Not at all. But Toyota is fixing the problem. Wonder if they could have >>>gotten away with printing 2.3 million stickers... >>> >>> >>> >> There's a big difference between cars that can't be controlled while you >> are driving them and cars that pop out of park. The Ford transmission >> problem was no more dangerous then all the cars that were produced for >> YEARS with automatic transmissions that didn't even have a PARK position >> but required you to put the emergency brake on. > > >Except that with the PARK position people stopped using the EB and over >300 were killed... > Which is why sending them a sticker was an appropriate "fix".
From: cuhulin on 10 Feb 2010 00:47
January 1964, eight hours layover in Tokyo.A little Mercedes Benz Airport van picked us up and took us to the hotel, Tokyo Tokyu, I think was the name of that hotel.I was kind of supprised that little MB van had such a good ride.I was sitting in that MB van, thinking I would have me one of these vans. cuhulin |