From: Clive on
In message <1sd4n55ntj6gtc1ehhg79htqohi0gtdob2(a)4ax.com>, Ashton Crusher
<demi(a)moore.net> writes
>On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:40:41 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:21:37 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 23:59:05 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:49:52 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:26:18 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:36:56 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:00:00 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:55:59 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you did, than I could not drift away, even if you did not
>>>>>>>>> properly engage the shifter into the PARK position, as was the
>>>>>>>>> actual cause.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>YABUT!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>How could you even forget about the Ford recall for transmissions?
>>>>>>>>They talked it to death almost as much as the currect Toyota recall.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>However, 'talked to death' is not a good phrase to use. Hundreds were
>>>>>>>>killed and thousands injured thanks to Ford NOT fixing the
>>>>>>>>transmissions, but issuing a sticker for the dash instead.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You want to make such a big deal about the Toyota recall. So far, I
>>>>>>>>don't think anyone has died yet from the sticking pedal, and Toyota
>>>>>>>>is fixing the problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2500 accidents, 12 deaths, or something like that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Kinda pales compared with over 300 deaths and thousands of injuries for
>>>>>>a transmission Ford didn't want to (and DIDN'T) fix...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Do you think that makes the 12 dead people feel any better?
>>>>
>>>>Not at all. But Toyota is fixing the problem. Wonder if they could have
>>>>gotten away with printing 2.3 million stickers...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> There's a big difference between cars that can't be controlled while you
>>> are driving them and cars that pop out of park. The Ford transmission
>>> problem was no more dangerous then all the cars that were produced for
>>> YEARS with automatic transmissions that didn't even have a PARK position
>>> but required you to put the emergency brake on.
>>
>>
>>Except that with the PARK position people stopped using the EB and over
>>300 were killed...
>>
>
>
>Which is why sending them a sticker was an appropriate "fix".
It's not a fix, it's a warning that the vehicle could (and frequently
was) dangerous. A fix is to correct the fault so that the danger no
longer exists.
--
Clive

From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:47:59 -0600, cuhulin wrote:

> January 1964, eight hours layover in Tokyo.A little Mercedes Benz Airport
> van picked us up and took us to the hotel, Tokyo Tokyu, I think was the
> name of that hotel.I was kind of supprised that little MB van had such a
> good ride.I was sitting in that MB van, thinking I would have me one of
> these vans.
> cuhulin

Did you?



From: cuhulin on
I own an early 1960s Mercedes Benz four cylinder diesel engine I bought
from J.C.Whitney many years ago.That is the only MB thingy I own.Other
than that, I have never owned a MB vehicle before.

My older brother (he was eight years older than I am) was in the Army
too, he was in Germany in 1963.He bought a second hand Mercedes Benz car
in Germany.
cuhulin

From: bwala kulusu on
Well, it was one of the cable news stations again today: a tape of
someone calling into 911 saying they couldn't stop their car and were
about to approach an intersection.

So basically they have time to call 911 and complain to an operator
but aren't smart enough to shut their damn car off or put it in
neutral, and the media aren't telling people to do this.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:39:30 -0800, bwala kulusu wrote:

> Well, it was one of the cable news stations again today: a tape of
> someone calling into 911 saying they couldn't stop their car and were
> about to approach an intersection.
>
> So basically they have time to call 911 and complain to an operator but
> aren't smart enough to shut their damn car off or put it in neutral, and
> the media aren't telling people to do this.

They kind of are, they just aren't spoonfeeding it to the Sheeple.

"MY CAR"S OUT OF CONTROL!!!!"

Anser should have been, "Put it in neutral, dumbass..."