From: Wayne on

"ACAR" <dimndsonmywndshld(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 17, 2:14 am, john <johngd...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, another Toyota recall.
>
> "Toyota said today it was recalling 600,000 Sienna minivans to inspect
> for rust in the cable that holds the spare tire, adding to the more
> than 6 million vehicles already under recall by the automaker this
> year.
>
> Toyota said it does not yet have a fix for the problem, which is
> likely confined to 20 cold-weather states, including Michigan, which
> use road salt in winter. Owners in other states can have their vans
> inspected for the problem.
>
> http://www.freep.com/article/20100416/BUSINESS01/100416067/1210/busin...

The fix is pretty simple; an annual inspection and grease applied to
the cable. My 1998 Sienna, as well as LOTS of other vehicles on the
road, used a similar cable system. Every year, when I checked the
spare tire, I'd also grease the cable.

But there are LOTS of other vehicles out there using a similar cable
for the spare. Only Toyota cables rust?
***************
Nope....same problem on lots of other brands. But Toyota is the current
pinata being beaten.


From: Michael on
On Apr 16, 11:14 pm, john <johngd...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, another Toyota recall.
>
> "Toyota said today it was recalling 600,000 Sienna minivans to inspect
> for rust in the cable that holds the spare tire, adding to the more
> than 6 million vehicles already under recall by the automaker this
> year.
>
> Toyota said it does not yet have a fix for the problem, which is
> likely confined to 20 cold-weather states, including Michigan, which
> use road salt in winter. Owners in other states can have their vans
> inspected for the problem.
>
> http://www.freep.com/article/20100416/BUSINESS01/100416067/1210/busin...


No fix for the problem? Really? Simply switching to a non-stainless-
steel cable should do it...?! Or hey, just coat the cable with epoxy
or something...

Michael
From: Wayne on

"me" <noemail(a)nothere.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:29:54 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarbagecan(a)verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Nope....same problem on lots of other brands. But Toyota is the current
>>pinata being beaten.
>
> Except that they did the recall themselves, they were NOT ordered to
> do it, so your whine doesn't hold water.
-
I'm not following your response. Are you saying that spare cables rust ONLY
on Toyota vehicles, or are you saying that Toyota is not being beaten like a
pinata?


From: Ed White on
On Apr 22, 11:03 am, "Wayne" <mygarbage...(a)verizon.net> wrote:
> "me" <noem...(a)nothere.com> wrote in message
>
> news:iiuus55u5uohh250m0gudqr4i2rae9649i(a)4ax.com...> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:29:54 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarbage...(a)verizon.net>
> > wrote:
>
> >>Nope....same problem on lots of other brands.  But Toyota is the current
> >>pinata being beaten.
>
> > Except that they did the recall themselves, they were NOT ordered to
> > do it, so your whine doesn't hold water.
>
> -
> I'm not following your response.  Are you saying that spare cables rust ONLY
> on Toyota vehicles, or are you saying that Toyota is not being beaten like a
> pinata?

Lately it seems Toyota is being beaten like a pinata.

As far as I know these spare tire cables have a significant failure
rate no matter who uses them. I have to wonder if maybe becasue of
some unmentioned factor(s), Siennas have an unusally severe problem
with cable failure. Maybe the location of the cable, or the design of
the underside of the van exposes the cable to more salt than tpyical
for other vehicles using cables. I've never had a cable fail, but I
did have the cable winding mechanism jam on an older Ford. I prefer
the style of spare tire carrier that uses a metal frame that you tilt
down to remove the tire. On the other hand, I so rarely need to use a
spare, I almost don't care if I have one.

Ed

From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 19:27:55 -0400, me wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 08:03:31 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarbagecan(a)verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>"me" <noemail(a)nothere.com> wrote in message
>>news:iiuus55u5uohh250m0gudqr4i2rae9649i(a)4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:29:54 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarbagecan(a)verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nope....same problem on lots of other brands. But Toyota is the
>>>>current pinata being beaten.
>>>
>>> Except that they did the recall themselves, they were NOT ordered to do
>>> it, so your whine doesn't hold water.
>>-
>>I'm not following your response. Are you saying that spare cables rust
>>ONLY on Toyota vehicles, or are you saying that Toyota is not being
>>beaten like a pinata?
>>
>>
> I'm saying that you're moaning about Toyota being a pinata - but in this
> case they did the recall of their own accord. No one ordered them to do
> it. The pinata whine doesn't hold water.

Of course it does. Every day there's a media story about Toyota. You'd
think Toyota would pull some advertising in retribution. NBC leads the
list.

With the US government in the car business, wouldn't it make sense to beat
down your biggest rival?