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From: Evan on 22 Jul 2010 23:27
On Jul 22, 10:35 pm, Smitty Two <prestwh...(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
> In article <i2a71h$9g...(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> LM <xxxvte.lisa.meisner...(a)verizon.net> wrote:
> > Still, I can't find what the laws are for California for transportation..
> > The Caltrans (DOT) site was miserable.
> Maybe it isn't the right place to look. The first paragraph of the
> "About" page reads:
> "Caltrans manages more than 50,000 miles of California's highway and
> freeway lanes, provides inter-city rail services, permits more than 400
> public-use airports and special-use hospital heliports, and works with
> local agencies. Caltrans carries out its mission of improving mobility
> across California with six primary programs: Aeronautics, Highway
> Transportation, Mass Transportation, Transportation Planning,
> Administration and the Equipment Service Center."
> Doesn't sound to me like they make laws.
Absolutely... The make administrative laws which govern how your
car has to be inspected and what items must be inspected to get
your sticker... Also how the roadways and railways under their
jurisdiction are used... Lots of things are covered under
From: HeyBub on 23 Jul 2010 07:40
Bill Murphy wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:34:23 -0700, Bill Murphy wrote:
>> Is it illegal to trasnsport more than 5 gallons (California) in a
> This seems to be a decent California laws search engine:
> But it only found the previously mentioned law regarding
> transportation of more than 120 gallons of gasoline in California at
> a time.
> At this point, there seems to be no specific law in California
> regulating the transportation (or storage) of gasoline in 5 gallon
You can bet there's such a law and ignorance of its provisions will not be
"I don't run the engine,
I don't ring the bell,
But if this train jumps the tracks,
Guess who catches hell!"
From: mkirsch1 on 23 Jul 2010 08:06
On Jul 22, 8:48 am, Judy Zappacosta <zappajNOS...(a)Use-Author-Supplied-
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:37:35 -0700 (PDT), mkirs...(a)rochester.rr.com wrote:
> > Of course, unless you load up ten 5-gallon jugs with gas and stack
> > them in the back of the minivan with the kids, in front of a cop,
> > Unless you ADVERTISE that you're doing something illegal, nobody is
> > going to know you're doing something illegal...
> But how do you get the clandestine 5 five gallon gas cans into the trunk at
> the gas station without anyone seeing you?
That's not illegal, dumbass. Pay attention.
Gas must be transported in an open vehicle (i.e. pickup truck bed), or
in an enclosed area separate from the passenger compartment (i.e. a
It is illegal to haul gas in a vehicle that does NOT have a
compartment separate from the passengers. Vehicles like a minivan, or
SUV, or station wagon.
From: Bill Murphy on 23 Jul 2010 11:15
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:34:04 -0500, Jim Yanik wrote:
> I doubt a copper/lead bullet piercing a gas can would ignite one.
> (anyone care to experiment for the group? 8-) )
If a bullet is shot through the fuel tank of a car, it will explode.
The gas tank did not explode.
(This myth was revisited in episode 38 and it was found to be plausible if
the tank is shot with a tracer round.)
REVISITED: A gas tank will explode when shot by a bullet. (From Episode 15)
It has already been proven that when shot by a normal bullet a gasoline
tank will not explode. However, if a gasoline tank is shot by a tracer
round from a great enough distance so that the round can ignite with air
friction, it will cause the gasoline to catch fire. By the time this
happened the tank was so riddled with bullets (from previous tracers that
were fired too close to ignite) that there was no contained pressure, but
the MythBusters surmised that had the tank been properly enclosed, it may
have exploded; but overall it remains extremely improbable.
From: Bill Murphy on 23 Jul 2010 11:23
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:21:22 -0700, Roy wrote:
> "It is ILLEGAL to transport more than 15 gallons or 125 pounds of
> hazardous waste in your personal vehicle."
Stating a law without a reference isn't useful in this particular case.
While I'm sure waste contaminated gasoline would be considered a hazardous
waste (and a flammable liquid at the same time), I doubt usable gasoline is
considered hazardous waste, per se, in most states.
But you never know. For example, it's illegal in California to use brass
plumbing that has ANY lead in it (yet all other 49 states seem to have no
problem with that).
As another example, it's illegal in California to use chlorinated brake
cleaners; while almost ever other state has no problem with that.
My point is that laws clearly vary by state:
- It's illegal in some states to get out of your car to refuel or pay
- It's illegal in some states to put a GPS in the middle of the windshield
- It's illegal in some states to use a radar detector
- It's illegal in some states to get your OBDII DTC codes scanned for free
Since laws involving storage and transportation of gasoline are almost
certain to vary among the states, a specific California law is what I'm
looking for (since I live in California). I'll keep looking for the text of
the law but I was hoping there was a single lawyer on this forum who might
tell us how to find the text of the law.