From: gpsman on
Imagine knowing the perfect speed in which to cruise through traffic
signals. It would be displayed in your car. Drive the optimal speed
and you would never have to stop at a light.

That's just the system that Audi is trying out in Germany. The system
is being called "Travolution" and it involves having cars communicate
with traffic signal to try to take some of the frustration out of city
driving.

Audi says it has built upon the system that it first tried out in
2006. In 15 test vehicles, the optimal speed for driving easily
through the next green light is displayed in the car. The system is
rigged to work with 25 traffic signals in Ingolstadt.

Audi thinks such a system could reduce waiting times at traffic
signals and cut fuel consumption by 17%.

The system also makes it possible to pay online when refueling or
parking the car, Audi says. The car itself communicates with the
stationary equipment at the filling station or parking garage. When
the driver confirms the charge, it is automatically debited from the
customer's account or credit card.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2010/06/audis-system-allows-cars-to-breeze-through-traffic-lights/1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w-QkHuAZrQ
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- gpsman
From: richard on
On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:53:01 -0700 (PDT), gpsman wrote:

> Imagine knowing the perfect speed in which to cruise through traffic
> signals. It would be displayed in your car. Drive the optimal speed
> and you would never have to stop at a light.
>
> That's just the system that Audi is trying out in Germany. The system
> is being called "Travolution" and it involves having cars communicate
> with traffic signal to try to take some of the frustration out of city
> driving.
>
> Audi says it has built upon the system that it first tried out in
> 2006. In 15 test vehicles, the optimal speed for driving easily
> through the next green light is displayed in the car. The system is
> rigged to work with 25 traffic signals in Ingolstadt.
>
> Audi thinks such a system could reduce waiting times at traffic
> signals and cut fuel consumption by 17%.
>
> The system also makes it possible to pay online when refueling or
> parking the car, Audi says. The car itself communicates with the
> stationary equipment at the filling station or parking garage. When
> the driver confirms the charge, it is automatically debited from the
> customer's account or credit card.
> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2010/06/audis-system-allows-cars-to-breeze-through-traffic-lights/1
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w-QkHuAZrQ
> -----
>
> - gpsman

Welcome to fantasy land.

As traffic lights in many locations are NOT set to any one set speed it is
next to impossible to make this dreamworld happen.

--
I learned my lesson well. You can't please everyone, so you got to please
yourself.
- Ricky Nelson from "Garden Party"
From: gpsman on
On Jun 20, 12:16 am, richard <mem...(a)newsguy.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:53:01 -0700 (PDT), gpsman wrote:
> > Imagine knowing the perfect speed in which to cruise through traffic
> > signals. It would be displayed in your car. Drive the optimal speed
> > and you would never have to stop at a light.
>
> > That's just the system that Audi is trying out in Germany. The system
> > is being called "Travolution" and it involves having cars communicate
> > with traffic signal to try to take some of the frustration out of city
> > driving.
>
> > Audi says it has built upon the system that it first tried out in
> > 2006. In 15 test vehicles, the optimal speed for driving easily
> > through the next green light is displayed in the car. The system is
> > rigged to work with 25 traffic signals in Ingolstadt.
>
> > Audi thinks such a system could reduce waiting times at traffic
> > signals and cut fuel consumption by 17%.
>
> > The system also makes it possible to pay online when refueling or
> > parking the car, Audi says. The car itself communicates with the
> > stationary equipment at the filling station or parking garage. When
> > the driver confirms the charge, it is automatically debited from the
> > customer's account or credit card.
> >http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2010/06/audis-sy...
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w-QkHuAZrQ
> >  -----
>
> > - gpsman
>
> Welcome to fantasy land.
>
> As traffic lights in many locations are NOT set to any one set speed it is
> next to impossible to make this dreamworld happen.

I've yet to see the point you can't miss.

> I learned my lesson well. You can't please everyone, so you got to please
> yourself.
> - Ricky Nelson from "Garden Party"

I've yet to see any evidence you've learned anything other than the TV
schedule.
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- gpsman
From: mkeen on
On Jun 20, 1:07 am, gpsman <gps...(a)driversmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 20, 12:16 am, richard <mem...(a)newsguy.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:53:01 -0700 (PDT), gpsman wrote:
> > > Imagine knowing the perfect speed in which to cruise through traffic
> > > signals. It would be displayed in your car. Drive the optimal speed
> > > and you would never have to stop at a light.
>
> > > That's just the system that Audi is trying out in Germany. The system
> > > is being called "Travolution" and it involves having cars communicate
> > > with traffic signal to try to take some of the frustration out of city
> > > driving.
>
> > > Audi says it has built upon the system that it first tried out in
> > > 2006. In 15 test vehicles, the optimal speed for driving easily
> > > through the next green light is displayed in the car. The system is
> > > rigged to work with 25 traffic signals in Ingolstadt.
>
> > > Audi thinks such a system could reduce waiting times at traffic
> > > signals and cut fuel consumption by 17%.
>
> > > The system also makes it possible to pay online when refueling or
> > > parking the car, Audi says. The car itself communicates with the
> > > stationary equipment at the filling station or parking garage. When
> > > the driver confirms the charge, it is automatically debited from the
> > > customer's account or credit card.
> > >http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2010/06/audis-sy....
>
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w-QkHuAZrQ
> > >  -----
>
> > > - gpsman
>
> > Welcome to fantasy land.
>
> > As traffic lights in many locations are NOT set to any one set speed it is
> > next to impossible to make this dreamworld happen.
>
> I've yet to see the point you can't miss.
>
> > I learned my lesson well. You can't please everyone, so you got to please
> > yourself.
> > - Ricky Nelson from "Garden Party"
>
> I've yet to see any evidence you've learned anything other than the TV
> schedule.
>  -----
>
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> - Show quoted text -

I have to agree with Richard. This is a fantasy. MOST locations are
not conducive to having an "optimal speed" whereby you will "never
have to stop at a light". I can think of many places where if drivers
reduced speed to avoid a red signal ahead they would waste road
capacity and cause unimaginable congestion behind them. On the other
hand, many places where there IS an optimal speed (such as the one-way
avenues of Manhattan) can be driven optimally with no fancy in-dash
technology--just observe the pattern of the signals as they change
before you. If you start seeing ped signals flashing the red hand,
increase your speed becuase you're looking at stale greens. BTW, I
think Manhattan's signals still have mechanical timers. Having said
all that, I do think certain locations should have countdown timers
for motorists, not pedestrians, so they can adjust their speed
accordingly. It wouldn't guarantee a green, but it could avoid
unnecessary hard braking.

M Keen
Ringwood, NJ
From: necromancer on
On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 23:16:51 -0500, richard <member(a)newsguy.com>
wrote:

>Welcome to fantasy land.
>
>As traffic lights in many locations are NOT set to any one set speed it is
>next to impossible to make this dreamworld happen.

DOes anyone really believe that the jerkwater towns that make up the
US of A are going to implement this system - espocially since it
stands to reason that a systme like this that optimizes traffic flow
through the intersections is bound to cut into the red light running
and as such the ticket revenue?

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necromancer - ECHM