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From: Nate Nagel on 20 Jun 2010 17:56
On 06/20/2010 05:53 PM, necromancer wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 23:16:51 -0500, richard<member(a)newsguy.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Welcome to fantasy land.
>>
>> As traffic lights in many locations are NOT set to any one set speed it is
>> next to impossible to make this dreamworld happen.
>
> DOes anyone really believe that the jerkwater towns that make up the
> US of A are going to implement this system - espocially since it
> stands to reason that a systme like this that optimizes traffic flow
> through the intersections is bound to cut into the red light running
> and as such the ticket revenue?
>
> --
> necromancer - ECHM

Hell, they can't even time the lights right in big cities. I've seen it
happen (e.g. 5th Avenue in the Oakland section of Pittsburgh) but far
more often I've seen light timings that seemed to be designed to make
you *have* to stop as often as possible no matter what you do.

nate

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From: necromancer on 20 Jun 2010 18:02
On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:56:56 -0400, Nate Nagel <njnagel(a)roosters.net>
wrote:

>Hell, they can't even time the lights right in big cities. I've seen it
>happen (e.g. 5th Avenue in the Oakland section of Pittsburgh) but far
>more often I've seen light timings that seemed to be designed to make
>you *have* to stop as often as possible no matter what you do.

Hell, here in Brunswick, they seem to be quite adept at timing the
traffic lights: to make sure that you have to stop at every one...

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From: MLOM on 20 Jun 2010 19:34
On Jun 20, 5:02 pm, necromancer
<Zidane's_Last_Red_Card(a)worldofnecromancer_no_spam_no_way.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:56:56 -0400, Nate Nagel <njna...(a)roosters.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Hell, they can't even time the lights right in big cities.  I've seen it
> >happen (e.g. 5th Avenue in the Oakland section of Pittsburgh) but far
> >more often I've seen light timings that seemed to be designed to make
> >you *have* to stop as often as possible no matter what you do.
>
> Hell, here in Brunswick, they seem to be quite adept at timing the
> traffic lights: to make sure that you have to stop at every one...
>
> --
> "I... Can't drive...  FIFTY-FIVE!!"
>                    --Sammy Hagar

Hell...sounds just like Kansas City, where traffic control means keep
everyone either stopped or incarcerated.

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From: Brent on 20 Jun 2010 23:20
On 2010-06-20, richard <member(a)newsguy.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:53:01 -0700 (PDT), gpsman wrote:

>> That's just the system that Audi is trying out in Germany. The system
>> is being called "Travolution" and it involves having cars communicate
>> with traffic signal to try to take some of the frustration out of city
>> driving.

> Welcome to fantasy land.
> As traffic lights in many locations are NOT set to any one set speed it is
> next to impossible to make this dreamworld happen.

In the USA it's an impossible fantasy. Audi is a German company and it
can work in Germany. The cultural differences regarding driving are the
reason.




From: Brent on 20 Jun 2010 23:24
On 2010-06-20, Nate Nagel <njnagel(a)roosters.net> wrote:

> Hell, they can't even time the lights right in big cities. I've seen it
> happen (e.g. 5th Avenue in the Oakland section of Pittsburgh) but far
> more often I've seen light timings that seemed to be designed to make
> you *have* to stop as often as possible no matter what you do.

The control freaks in the USA do that on purpose, no question about it.
same reason they put up stop signs all over the place. It's an excerise
of their control. Suggest timing lights and they'll freak out about
people 'speeding through'. It makes no sense but that's what they'll do.


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