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From: D Walford on 7 Jun 2010 06:35 On 7/06/2010 1:50 PM, Albm&ctd wrote: > In article<4c058a8f$0$34202$c30e37c6(a)exi-reader.telstra.net>, me(a)home.com > says... >> >> <OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message >> news:iis906lafdmovhtrik3ie6b71i4je3ochv(a)4ax.com... >> >>> You'd have to suspect that every one of these was picked up in the >>> first service.....If the dealers actually did a first service... >> >> Dealer mechanics checking ball joint bolts on a first service? >> >> You're kidding, right? :) >> > About 25 years ago, we used to check all accessible bolts etc during PD. Found > stripped subframe bolt hole threads once, so yeah some did a proper PD, dunno > about now. As a first year apprentice I used to spend a lot of time doing predelivery checks on forklifts and tractors, we used to receive them unpainted so we had to check every nut and bolt and put a chalk mark on each one, if the boss found a bolt without a chalk mark it usually resulted some sort of abuse but that was close to 40yrs ago and I very much doubt anything much gets checked these days. Daryl
From: hippo on 7 Jun 2010 17:59 D Walford wrote: > > On 7/06/2010 1:50 PM, Albm&ctd wrote: > > In article<4c058a8f$0$34202$c30e37c6(a)exi-reader.telstra.net>, me(a)home.com > > says... > >> > >> <OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message > >> news:iis906lafdmovhtrik3ie6b71i4je3ochv(a)4ax.com... > >> > >>> You'd have to suspect that every one of these was picked up in the > >>> first service.....If the dealers actually did a first service... > >> > >> Dealer mechanics checking ball joint bolts on a first service? > >> > >> You're kidding, right? :) > >> > > About 25 years ago, we used to check all accessible bolts etc during PD. Found > > stripped subframe bolt hole threads once, so yeah some did a proper PD, dunno > > about now. > > As a first year apprentice I used to spend a lot of time doing > predelivery checks on forklifts and tractors, we used to receive them > unpainted so we had to check every nut and bolt and put a chalk mark on > each one, if the boss found a bolt without a chalk mark it usually > resulted some sort of abuse but that was close to 40yrs ago and I very > much doubt anything much gets checked these days. > > > Daryl > > Mmm... a new Tarago with a sliding door that wouldn't fully close, an earlier one with a tailgate that *couldn't* be reclosed without the door ajar light staying on, a Jag with a set of assymetrical tyres on backwards, an early Barina with no oil in the gearbox. The 'checked through pre-delivery' list goes on, but my favourite was a friend's brand new pride and joy Peugeot 306 cabrio that was delivered with a very tasteful grey trim, but one grey and one black front seat! Just for idle interest, especially now that many vehicles don't need rego inspections for a few years, have a look at just how many cars under 3yo have badly aligned hadlamps, including plenty on trade plates. -- Posted at www.usenet.com.au
From: D Walford on 7 Jun 2010 20:26 On 8/06/2010 7:59 AM, hippo wrote: > D Walford wrote: >> >> On 7/06/2010 1:50 PM, Albm&ctd wrote: >>> In article<4c058a8f$0$34202$c30e37c6(a)exi-reader.telstra.net>, me(a)home.com >>> says... >>>> >>>> <OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message >>>> news:iis906lafdmovhtrik3ie6b71i4je3ochv(a)4ax.com... >>>> >>>>> You'd have to suspect that every one of these was picked up in the >>>>> first service.....If the dealers actually did a first service... >>>> >>>> Dealer mechanics checking ball joint bolts on a first service? >>>> >>>> You're kidding, right? :) >>>> >>> About 25 years ago, we used to check all accessible bolts etc during PD. > Found >>> stripped subframe bolt hole threads once, so yeah some did a proper PD, > dunno >>> about now. >> >> As a first year apprentice I used to spend a lot of time doing >> predelivery checks on forklifts and tractors, we used to receive them >> unpainted so we had to check every nut and bolt and put a chalk mark on >> each one, if the boss found a bolt without a chalk mark it usually >> resulted some sort of abuse but that was close to 40yrs ago and I very >> much doubt anything much gets checked these days. >> >> >> Daryl >> >> > > Mmm... a new Tarago with a sliding door that wouldn't fully close, an > earlier one with a tailgate that *couldn't* be reclosed without the door > ajar light staying on, a Jag with a set of assymetrical tyres on > backwards, an early Barina with no oil in the gearbox. The 'checked > through pre-delivery' list goes on, but my favourite was a friend's brand > new pride and joy Peugeot 306 cabrio that was delivered with a very > tasteful grey trim, but one grey and one black front seat! > LOL, good evidence that dealer pre delivery checks are just a cash cow. > Just for idle interest, especially now that many vehicles don't need rego > inspections for a few years, have a look at just how many cars under 3yo > have badly aligned hadlamps, including plenty on trade plates. > Can't say that I've noticed any new cars with that problem but faulty lights is a big problem, badly aimed head and fog lamps plus burnt out globes is all too common, some people never check such things and even when you tell them they don't care enough to get it fixed. Daryl
From: Noddy on 7 Jun 2010 20:30 "D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message news:4c0d8e4f$0$28660$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > LOL, good evidence that dealer pre delivery checks are just a cash cow. They always have been. 1500 bucks or whatever it is to screw on the number plates and give the car a quick wash is the best rort in town :) -- Regards, Noddy.
From: John_H on 7 Jun 2010 21:28
D Walford wrote: > >Can't say that I've noticed any new cars with that problem but faulty >lights is a big problem, badly aimed head and fog lamps plus burnt out >globes is all too common, some people never check such things and even >when you tell them they don't care enough to get it fixed. Current Subie is the only car I've ever owned (new or secondhand) that didn't need headlamp adjustment... probably only because it's got HID's from factory. I also take notice of aftermarket driving lamps when I'm walking down the street. It's rare to see a pair that even point vaguely in the same direction! -- John H |